The "Whine About Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

[Momus]

I think Pac is more likely to be boxing's Indurain rather than boxing's Armstrong.

[BagsWithDust]

Originally Posted by Hatesrats

I'm waiting on PAC's career to come to an end to see what & who comes out of the shadows & writes that "Tell All" book that always seems to follow any atheletes the magnitude of Pacquiao.

Ariza maybe??

Same here thats a very good point you bring up, every athlete in every sport will have something come up years after they are done their careers and it will ultimatelty hurt their careers or themselves

[Knickerbocker]

Originally Posted by BagsWithDust

Same here thats a very good point you bring up, every athlete in every sport will have something come up years after they are done their careers and it will ultimatelty hurt their careers or themselves

interesting, Ariza is a guy to look out for. however, he still needs evidence like receipts, recorded conversations, etc,

[Divi253]

Ariza would be the one to out him if anything shady was going on, and I see no reason for him to do that at the moment.

Maybe if the stable of fighters he's working with dwindles down to nothing he'll say something to get his name back in the media...

[Knickerbocker]

Originally Posted by Divi253

Ariza would be the one to out him if anything shady was going on, and I see no reason for him to do that at the moment.

Maybe if the stable of fighters he's working with dwindles down to nothing he'll say something to get his name back in the media...

on twitter he avoided a question from Victor Conte about whether he injected Pacquiao or not

instead of denying he said nothing

[Nonito Smoak]

If a reporter really wanted to get in the news, investigate Roach and Ariza's supplement contacts.

[KidDynamite]

He's been ducking USADA for his entire career

[OnePunchKO]

It's possible, but I see it happening more to Floyd first. Then Marquez.

[miniq]

Floyd Marquez and Pac...

Floyd's paranoia over PEDS makes me think he's had dealings with them in his past/present + these god damn retirements fighting once every year since 2009.

[bjl12]

manny is the first fighter to climb as many weight classes as he has, and he did so relying solely on physical attributes. That is, he can't box for shit. All he's got (had) is speed, conditioning, okay power, and a chin. His speed is slowing, his conditioning isn't what it used to be (clearly), his power's diminished, and the chin's shot. Now he's back to being a C-level fighter.

On the other hand, some posters suggested Floyd or JMM as being PED users. I contend that those accusations are without merit. Floyd and JMM aren't moving up in weight KO'ing/TKO'ing their opponents. Rather, they rely on technique, in-fight adjustments, and defense/avoiding damaging blows to prolong their success and career. The KTFO6 actually had more to do with manny sucking than JMM being very good/powerful.

The fighters who rely primarily on physical attributes: RJJ, SSM, Holyfield, manny, etc. Those are the guys who are very suspect. That doesn't mean other people can't be suspect, but the physical attribute guys are definitively more suspicious. You have to wonder, what exactly is setting them apart from their competition? Because it sure as hell isn't their boxing ability.

[bjl12]

Originally Posted by ROACH

Probably hand issues. But he was afraid of Margarito.

That is indisputable. Cotto? Nah, not so much. But Margarito. Hell yeah.

Williams? He didn't want to fuck with Williams.

But his hands were probably fucked up. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do much boxing at all during his retirement period.

Anybody have any information on this?

This has already been discussed tirelessly and been dismissed previously. Your boy Bobby (buboy) Arum went on record saying Floyd didn't duck/dodge Margs or Cotto. He also didn't duck a prime DLH.

Put your own leg work in. I am only posting in case you legitimately are misinformed. I imagine you're just a bitter pacfuck though

[Scar]

Originally Posted by iceman71

DLH was shot and had lost 2 of his last 4 , margarito was avoided by alot of guys, floyd being one of them

He was still good enough to give him a tough close fight. Only cabdrivers and janitors from Tijuana would still back up a fraud like Margarito who made a career calling out smaller opposition, loading up his gloves and losing.

[Hatesrats]

Originally Posted by OnePunchKO

It's possible, but I see it happening more to Floyd first. Then Marquez.

Still???

[jeffjoiner]

Considering the vast majority of boxers were busted using an agency with ties to a major sport, I doubt it. Pac has his own strength and conditioning coach who is an afternoon drive from the Mexican border. He doesn't need a BALCO or "anti-aging" center.

Say what you want about Arum, but he's wily enough to make sure there isn't a paper trail. Unless Ariza wants to short circuit his own career and narc on Manny, there's no way he gets caught.

[thawk888]

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