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Old 01-30-2013, 05:53 PM   #8011
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manny is the first fighter to climb as many weight classes as he has, and he did so relying solely on physical attributes. That is, he can't box for shit. All he's got (had) is speed, conditioning, okay power, and a chin. His speed is slowing, his conditioning isn't what it used to be (clearly), his power's diminished, and the chin's shot. Now he's back to being a C-level fighter.

On the other hand, some posters suggested Floyd or JMM as being PED users. I contend that those accusations are without merit. Floyd and JMM aren't moving up in weight KO'ing/TKO'ing their opponents. Rather, they rely on technique, in-fight adjustments, and defense/avoiding damaging blows to prolong their success and career. The KTFO6 actually had more to do with manny sucking than JMM being very good/powerful.

The fighters who rely primarily on physical attributes: RJJ, SSM, Holyfield, manny, etc. Those are the guys who are very suspect. That doesn't mean other people can't be suspect, but the physical attribute guys are definitively more suspicious. You have to wonder, what exactly is setting them apart from their competition? Because it sure as hell isn't their boxing ability.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:56 PM   #8012
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Probably hand issues. But he was afraid of Margarito.

That is indisputable. Cotto? Nah, not so much. But Margarito. Hell yeah.

Williams? He didn't want to **** with Williams.

But his hands were probably ****ed up. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do much boxing at all during his retirement period.

Anybody have any information on this?
This has already been discussed tirelessly and been dismissed previously. Your boy Bobby (buboy) Arum went on record saying Floyd didn't duck/dodge Margs or Cotto. He also didn't duck a prime DLH.

Put your own leg work in. I am only posting in case you legitimately are misinformed. I imagine you're just a bitter pac**** though
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:56 PM   #8013
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DLH was shot and had lost 2 of his last 4 , margarito was avoided by alot of guys, floyd being one of them
He was still good enough to give him a tough close fight. Only cabdrivers and janitors from Tijuana would still back up a fraud like Margarito who made a career calling out smaller opposition, loading up his gloves and losing.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:56 PM   #8014
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It's possible, but I see it happening more to Floyd first. Then Marquez.
Still???
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:57 PM   #8015
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Default Re: Will Pacquiao be exposed in the near future as a PED cheat?

Considering the vast majority of boxers were busted using an agency with ties to a major sport, I doubt it. Pac has his own strength and conditioning coach who is an afternoon drive from the Mexican border. He doesn't need a BALCO or "anti-aging" center.

Say what you want about Arum, but he's wily enough to make sure there isn't a paper trail. Unless Ariza wants to short circuit his own career and narc on Manny, there's no way he gets caught.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:58 PM   #8016
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:58 PM   #8017
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PED side boxing.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:59 PM   #8018
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manny is the first fighter to climb as many weight classes as he has.
No he isnt.

Georges Carpentier fought in every division from flyweight to heavy. Sam Langford went from feather to heavy.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:00 PM   #8019
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dumb question deserves no answer.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:04 PM   #8020
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No he isnt.

Georges Carpentier fought in every division from flyweight to heavy. Sam Langford went from feather to heavy.
I'm referring to contemporary boxers (past 30 years). Hard to wage the accomplishments of boxing era's so long in the past. Different time then
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:07 PM   #8021
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I guess for idiots like you I should include... "and was successful"
Langford & Carpentier werent succesful?

You need to learn a little bit more about the sports history you ****ing spastic
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:39 PM   #8022
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Floyd Marquez and Pac...

Floyd's paranoia over PEDS makes me think he's had dealings with them in his past/present + these god damn retirements fighting once every year since 2009.
This.

I could see them ALL being implicated at some point like the Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds of boxing.

Sadly, I see Pacquiao ending up broke one day.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:41 PM   #8023
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I hope he wasn't on steroids. His legacy has him in my Top 30 all time.
If he had steroids, I won't even know where to put him lol Him being equally matched with Marquez, beating Margarito at LMW, Barrera, Morales, even the likes of Lehwaba...
all of that wiped away.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:17 PM   #8024
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Default Will Mayweather be exposed in the near future as a PED cheat?

i dont know whether Floyd roided or not but with these PED hustlers outing their clients, Money could be outed. I suspect he got his roids (if he used) from an American lab, because contrary to Floyd Sr, they dont make em in the Philippines. Should this happen it would be the biggest story since Lance Armstrong

Another possibility is Mayweather getting them from China, thereby making his paper trail more difficult. Whats your thoughts....

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:19 PM   #8025
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i dont know whether Floyd roided or not but with these PED hustlers outing their clients, Money could be outed. I suspect he got his roids (if he used) from an American lab, because contrary to Floyd Sr, they dont make em in the Philippines. Should this happen it would be the biggest story since Lance Armstrong

Another possibility is Mayweather getting them from China, thereby making his paper trail more difficult. Whats your thoughts....

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Why do you have a picture of Zab Judah and who is PMayweather?
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