Charley burley vs Stanley ketchel

[Mr Butt]

Charley burley vs Stanley ketchel over 15 rounds



Hiawatha grey , Archie Moore , Eddie futch and ray arcel have all been quoted as saying burley is the best fighter that they ever saw.


Ketchel is rated in the top ten middleweights of all time by most boxing historians. will his aggressive style and power punches ensure that he wins this match- up

[Mr Butt]

Wrong forum can one of the mods move this to the classic forum please

[ROACH]

It was a different fight in Ketchel's era. More grappling was allowed. Under modern rules, Burley.

[Mr Butt]

[timmers612]

Originally Posted by Mr Butt

Charley burley vs Stanley ketchel over 15 rounds



Hiawatha grey , Archie Moore , Eddie futch and ray arcel have all been quoted as saying burley is the best fighter that they ever saw.


Ketchel is rated in the top ten middleweights of all time by most boxing historians. will his aggressive style and power punches ensure that he wins this match- up

Are you sure on the Ray Arcel quote? Hiawatha Grey was who?

[Manassa]

A nightmare choice for a certain moderator.

I'd take Burley.

[Mr Butt]

Originally Posted by timmers612

Are you sure on the Ray Arcel quote? Hiawatha Grey was who?

Not totally on the arcel one to be honest always new arcel rated him very highly but was reading on the net somewhere that arcel did but always thought arcel might of gone for benny to be honest. Grey is a cheeky one he was I think burley's trainer but he was a boxing man who's lineage in boxing goes back to the times of jack Johnson and obviously ketchel. I do remember reading about him ( being a good trainer) a bit when I was in my teens so that was quite a few years back now

[Theron]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Burley. Ketchel didn't impress me one iota when I watched him.

Well that's like if Ali's only recorded fight was a loss and not a great performance of his...

I'd still take Burley though

[timmers612]

Originally Posted by Mr Butt

Not totally on the arcel one to be honest always new arcel rated him very highly but was reading on the net somewhere that arcel did but always thought arcel might of gone for benny to be honest. Grey is a cheeky one he was I think burley's trainer but he was a boxing man who's lineage in boxing goes back to the times of jack Johnson and obviously ketchel. I do remember reading about him ( being a good trainer) a bit when I was in my teens so that was quite a few years back now

Interesting about Grey. Arcel did consider Benny the best but then made what he said was a very hard decision, that Duran replaced him in that position. That was before No mas and the great distraughtness it caused Arcel though.

[Svengali]

Burley would destroy him.

[Theron]

Originally Posted by Svengali

Burley would destroy him.

I'd never say anybody would destroy Ketchel, he was a tough fucker and could hit like hell

[turbotime]

Not comfortable saying ketchel by KO and he isn't outboxing Burley, so yeah I like Burley by decision.

[lufcrazy]

what a tough fight to pick.

my gut tells me burley but i'm not so sure.

[Theron]

Originally Posted by orriray59

What's your point? I watched Ketchel footage, I thought he looked like shit.

I don't think Ketchel can beat Burley under 15 rounds. I can only judge a fight by what I've actually seen of both men, and Burley to me is just a superior H2H force.

Yeah cause its one of his worst fights you saw, not a great performance by him
I agree with that im just saying Ketchel was better than what is on film of him

[MadcapMaxie]

Burley by landslide dec. possible late stoppage, from what I've seen he's just waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Ketchel. Sure Ketchel can punch but Burley was never KO'd despite fighting bigger and better opponents than Ketchel, no reason to think that Ketchel with his primitive and amatuerish swings could pull the trick.