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Old 02-01-2013, 11:48 AM   #46
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I work with professional athletes and I have a masters degree in the area. Who are you?
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:23 PM   #47
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What do you guys think about jumping squats?

I know it sounds dangerous (if you do it with a barbell), but I actually have been doing them recently with a 40 lb water bag on my shoulders. It's not very heavy, but the jump actually adds a great degree of resistance. I do about 20 and it adds some nice challenge and variety to my regular core & legs strength training.

I'm sure there's some benefit, but since I made it up and am not an expert - I was just wondering if the benefits were better/worse/similar to doing slow heavy squats.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:35 PM   #48
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand if you explode too fast out of a squat you have a higher probability of tearing your cartilage.

Dealt with, you should know about this shit. Clarify?
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What do you guys think about jumping squats?

I know it sounds dangerous (if you do it with a barbell), but I actually have been doing them recently with a 40 lb water bag on my shoulders. It's not very heavy, but the jump actually adds a great degree of resistance. I do about 20 and it adds some nice challenge and variety to my regular core & legs strength training.

I'm sure there's some benefit, but since I made it up and am not an expert - I was just wondering if the benefits were better/worse/similar to doing slow heavy squats.
Try it with 2 woody bands from Shoulders too Feet. Left shoulder to right Foot right Shoulder too left Foot. Its safe, keep good Posture.
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What do you guys think about jumping squats?

I know it sounds dangerous (if you do it with a barbell), but I actually have been doing them recently with a 40 lb water bag on my shoulders. It's not very heavy, but the jump actually adds a great degree of resistance. I do about 20 and it adds some nice challenge and variety to my regular core & legs strength training.

I'm sure there's some benefit, but since I made it up and am not an expert - I was just wondering if the benefits were better/worse/similar to doing slow heavy squats.
Weighted jumps are perfectly fine as long as the weight isn't too heavy.

Contrast training is very good, somewhat heavy squats into vertical jumps for example. 3 reps squats with 70-80% of 1rm (I think in that range anyway) then the jumps. Idea is the weights "excite" the nervous system which in turn increases jump height.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:43 PM   #51
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand if you explode too fast out of a squat you have a higher probability of tearing your cartilage.

Dealt with, you should know about this shit. Clarify?
Squats are bad, they'll **** you up.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:50 PM   #52
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Squats are bad, they'll **** you up.
You're young.

Bodyweight is the best way to go. You'll find that out one day.

You can get strong with tension and pistol squats.

Listen man, I haven't deadlifted for a year, yet I went to the gym not too long ago, and I found I was only about 40 lbs off my max, but I weigh about 10 lbs less than I did previously also.

But, I feel more fluid, my joints feel better, and I haven't even mastered my own bodyweight yet.

How do you explain that?

There is a guy on bodybuilding.com that only did bodyweight and squated 365 his first time squatting.

You can be stronger with weights, although you won't be as balanced nor able to do the things a bodyweight guy can do unless you train specifically for that, but you won't be that much stronger, and it's at the cost of your joints over time.

Man, look at all those stiff ass weight lifters that are older.
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You're young.

Bodyweight is the best way to go. You'll find that out one day.
Depends on your goals. The two are useless to me outside of warm-up seeing as I train for rugby where maximum power output is important

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You can get strong with tension and pistol squats.
You can get stronger using resistance... And?

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Listen man, I haven't deadlifted for a year, yet I went to the gym not too long ago, and I found I was only about 40 lbs off my max, but I weigh about 10 lbs less than I did previously also.
So you couldn't deadlift a decent amount. So what?

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But, I feel more fluid, my joints feel better, and I haven't even mastered my own bodyweight yet.

How do you explain that?
You used weighst with no knowledge of what you were doing. Simple really.

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There is a guy on bodybuilding.com that only did bodyweight and squated 365 his first time squatting.
I very much doubt it.

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You can be stronger with weights, although you won't be as balanced
That's just plain wrong.

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nor able to do the things a bodyweight guy can do unless you train specifically for that
For example?

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but you won't be that much stronger,
That's just plain wrong.

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and it's at the cost of your joints over time.
Weight lifting strengthens joints...

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Man, look at all those stiff ass weight lifters that are older.
You do realize probably around 90% of the people that use weights don't actually have a clue what they're doing?
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What do you guys think about jumping squats?

I know it sounds dangerous (if you do it with a barbell), but I actually have been doing them recently with a 40 lb water bag on my shoulders. It's not very heavy, but the jump actually adds a great degree of resistance. I do about 20 and it adds some nice challenge and variety to my regular core & legs strength training.

I'm sure there's some benefit, but since I made it up and am not an expert - I was just wondering if the benefits were better/worse/similar to doing slow heavy squats.
Yeah that's power training, a lot of athletes put a weight on that is 30-60% of their max and perform jump squats. I wouldn't do 20 in a set, I'd recommend 5-6 because it is power training and you don't want bad form when you're doing it. I'd do a period of heavy slow squats before doing them to ensure your body can handle the stress but you'll still get benefits without doing that. They'll help increase your rate of force development so go for it I'd say.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand if you explode too fast out of a squat you have a higher probability of tearing your cartilage.

Dealt with, you should know about this shit. Clarify?
You'll be fine as long as you don't bounce into them, squat down and stop, then jump. And make sure you land with bent knees to absorb the force through your muscles instead of your joints.
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Constantly doing jumping squats will really damage your joints, especially the knees.
Constantly doing anything will damage you.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:40 PM   #57
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Depends on your goals. The two are useless to me outside of warm-up seeing as I train for rugby where maximum power output is important



You can get stronger using resistance... And?



So you couldn't deadlift a decent amount. So what?



You used weighst with no knowledge of what you were doing. Simple really.



I very much doubt it.



That's just plain wrong.



For example?



That's just plain wrong.



Weight lifting strengthens joints...



You do realize probably around 90% of the people that use weights don't actually have a clue what they're doing?
Over 400 lbs isn't a decent amount?

You are a big time hater. No weights, and I'm still stronger at liftin weights than your punk ass.
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For all you young kids out there, that goes for explosive grip training on the pull up bar as well.

If you don't got the proper strength you can easily get a SLAP tear. I hear that shit is common for those crossfit dummies that do kipping pull ups.

Apparently, SLAP tears don't heal on their own.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:06 PM   #59
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There is no Pacific muscles to work on for power ,,when you walk into a boxing gym all exercises should be relevant for speed , power , stabilized balance
shadow boxing is good to practice rhythm within the combinations witch then transfers body movement behind the punch giving maximum power from body weight

the punch starts from the legs to the waist which then relises the arms which backs up the fist
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I don't know what you read but it sounds like the information from an internet blog boxing 'expert'. What you're saying doesn't make any sense anatomically or biomechanically. The whole body adds power and speed through the kinetic chain, having lean arms or not makes no difference to anything, they are light relatively speaking and the difference in weight between a slightly bulkier arm and a lean arm would be insignificant. It's the last link of the chain so you don't have to put in any effort to overcome the weight of your arm if you're punching anywhere near correctly.
dealt with if the triceps are the least used muscles. are they practically wasted space? my right tricep are much stronger and bigger than the one on my left and I'm sort of wishing it wasn't so big anymore. any possible way of making it equal like my left so I could have more room to put muscle in other important places like the legs, traps, back shoulder biceps etc?
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