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Old 02-01-2013, 12:30 PM   #1
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Default Carlos Ortiz vs Ken Bunchanan

Buchanan fought an aging Ortiz after just being dethroned by the masterful Roberto Duran, but how would he have fared against the Ortiz that battered Battling Torres in 1960? 15 rounds, Lightweight. I've seen very little footage of either men so I wouldn't like to comment, but it'd be nice to hear from some of our knowledgeable posters on this match-up.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:14 PM   #2
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I don't put any stock in the past prime win but I think Buchanan may have had the style to beat Ortiz. Not that he was better or greater, just that his movement, jab, rangyness combined with his toughness and workrate could see him win a decision over prime Ortiz
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It's a very tough one to call. Ortiz was the greater fighter overall, but I think I may agree with PowerPuncher for once.
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This thread is a bunch of anan.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:50 PM   #5
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Great avatar? Tapia looks like pooch from hack/slash.
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Great avatar? Tapia looks like pooch from hack/slash.
Comedy value, Red. Comedy value.
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Comedy value, Red. Comedy value.
Is comedy the one with the laughter or the tears?
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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Lad. Good to see you back in classic. Bad to see you not at the clubhouse.

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Great avatar? Tapia looks like pooch from hack/slash.
It's a bit of a GTMSBT inside joke, mate. No Tapia dissing. But, you'd know that if you ever stopped by.

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Is comedy the one with the laughter or the tears?
Shockingly indistinguishable from one another for me, LR.
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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Lad. Good to see you back in classic. Bad to see you not at the clubhouse.



It's a bit of a GTMSBT inside joke, mate. No Tapia dissing. But, you'd know that if you ever stopped by.



Shockingly indistinguishable from one another for me, LR.
I literally have no idea what you mean. Except for the last part. That I know.
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I literally have no idea what you mean. Except for the last part. That I know.
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You've got to at least stop by when you're in town, man. Manners, man. Come on, man.

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Oh, you have. Never mind.
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I would stop by more often but the lounge is terrifying.
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I don't put any stock in the past prime win but I think Buchanan may have had the style to beat Ortiz. Not that he was better or greater, just that his movement, jab, rangyness combined with his toughness and workrate could see him win a decision over prime Ortiz
I agree with you here PP. It was a matter of styles..Buchanan would beat Ortiz. Ken proved his toughness vs Duran...if it weren't for that low blow, it would have gone the full 15...and that first round "knockdown" was bullshit.
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I agree with you here PP. It was a matter of styles..Buchanan would beat Ortiz. Ken proved his toughness vs Duran...if it weren't for that low blow, it would have gone the full 15...and that first round "knockdown" was bullshit.
Ken was well beaten though, even without the "bullshit" knockdown.

I think Ortiz goes 15 with Duran at 135lbs, and he'd probably be closer to winning than Kenny was too.
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Ken was well beaten though, even without the "bullshit" knockdown.

I think Ortiz goes 15 with Duran at 135lbs, and he'd probably be closer to winning than Kenny was too.
Didn't say he wasn't Addie. I was exclaiming on Ken's toughness, that's all. He would have lost a wide decision to Duran if he hadn't got his nuts cracked.
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