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Old 02-02-2013, 04:57 AM   #76
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3 times a week of deadlift and squat?

That sounds like overkill.

Also man, 4 times a week on the heavybag don't sound bad now, but I'll just say make sure you protect the shit outta your hands. B HOP is not the norm. I don't know how the **** he still does it.

Pascal was probably right. He probably is on PEDs. He got up and slapped Pascal though, so we all just took his word.
no...i dont do much...5x5 one day of chest, 5x5 deadlifts, 5x5 legs.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:58 AM   #77
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You still need your triceps to lock out the punch, they aren't useless. Also the size of the muscle means that no matter how big they are they aren't going to add any significant weight to you.
bigger muscles do suck up more oxygen though...making it harder to keep your conditioning up.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:52 AM   #78
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Over 400 lbs isn't a decent amount?
That's about average.

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You are a big time hater.
Hater of what exactly? Your numbers are average at best.

Unless you weigh under 150lbs a 400lbs deadlift is very poor for somebody that supposedly participated in powerlifting for over 10 years.

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Really? You worked this out how exactly? How much can I bench/deadlift/squat?
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:08 AM   #79
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ehhhh doubt it....but even if they did..id still rape you *****
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:28 AM   #80
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bigger muscles do suck up more oxygen though...making it harder to keep your conditioning up.
Such a load of nonsense, i can't stand when people say that. More strength = more efficient movement if you hypertrophy fast twitch muscles, if you hypertrophy slow twitch muscles then you have greater peripheral endurance, more capillaries and mitochondria. The most important thing is central fitness (VO2max) and lactate tolerance. It's the strength to weight ratio that makes a difference, you can have large muscles and have elite cardio fitness. If your muscles have been trained for whatever activity then the blood goes there, you have the capillaries to offload oxygen. This stupid myth comes from the fact that people who are generally muscular do less cardio and people who are endurance athletes generally do less resistance training. If you can fit both in with a properly periodised plan then having larger muscles is going to help your endurance if they've been trained with your sport in mind.
And back to the point, how the hell is a small muscle like the triceps going to make any difference to anything? If a muscle isn't being used much then it's not sucking up anything is it? It's just an extra 200 grams or whatever of weight proximal to a joint (so has a small moment arm) that your whole body is going to have to overcome, it's not going to make any difference.
You're like a treasure trove of misinformation, I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours that doesn't have something stupid in it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:49 AM   #81
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Such a load of nonsense, i can't stand when people say that. More strength = more efficient movement if you hypertrophy fast twitch muscles, if you hypertrophy slow twitch muscles then you have greater peripheral endurance, more capillaries and mitochondria. The most important thing is central fitness (VO2max) and lactate tolerance. It's the strength to weight ratio that makes a difference, you can have large muscles and have elite cardio fitness. If your muscles have been trained for whatever activity then the blood goes there, you have the capillaries to offload oxygen. This stupid myth comes from the fact that people who are generally muscular do less cardio and people who are endurance athletes generally do less resistance training. If you can fit both in with a properly periodised plan then having larger muscles is going to help your endurance if they've been trained with your sport in mind.
And back to the point, how the hell is a small muscle like the triceps going to make any difference to anything? If a muscle isn't being used much then it's not sucking up anything is it? It's just an extra 200 grams or whatever of weight proximal to a joint (so has a small moment arm) that your whole body is going to have to overcome, it's not going to make any difference.
You're like a treasure trove of misinformation, I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours that doesn't have something stupid in it.
Excellent and factual post. Except the being an asshole part.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:57 AM   #82
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Jesus this place is littered with poor advice.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:59 PM   #83
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That's about average.



Hater of what exactly? Your numbers are average at best.

Unless you weigh under 150lbs a 400lbs deadlift is very poor for somebody that supposedly participated in powerlifting for over 10 years.



Really? You worked this out how exactly? How much can I bench/deadlift/squat?
You can't even put up that much. I told you numerous times to post a video.

You said you were in the 1500 club, so post a video of you deadlifting supposedly 600+.

Regardless, it's irrelevant anyway. The point is, I don't lift weights, and I've retained almost everything I lifted before.

For a 400 lb deadlift, 40 lbs is 10%.

That ain't shit.
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The ones between your toes and your knuckles.
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I have no idea what you just said but I beleive
Try it this way then, Question, what actually moves us.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:07 PM   #86
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Hi Mate, everything in the Posterior Chain, is Triggered by the TFL, it Orchestrates, conducts all movement and ,. Singles the Bio mechanics of drive. We assume its the Foot, but its not. something of interest .
How can you train the TFL to be more resonsive? Powerful
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Such a load of nonsense, i can't stand when people say that. More strength = more efficient movement if you hypertrophy fast twitch muscles, if you hypertrophy slow twitch muscles then you have greater peripheral endurance, more capillaries and mitochondria.
hypertrophy...meaning making bigger..doesnt automatically make someone stronger..in fact the kind of training needed for hypertrophy does not improve strength much. So you are full of shit.


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The most important thing is central fitness (VO2max) and lactate tolerance. It's the strength to weight ratio that makes a difference, you can have large muscles and have elite cardio fitness. If your muscles have been trained for whatever activity then the blood goes there, you have the capillaries to offload oxygen. This stupid myth comes from the fact that people who are generally muscular do less cardio and people who are endurance athletes generally do less resistance training. If you can fit both in with a properly periodised plan then having larger muscles is going to help your endurance if they've been trained with your sport in mind.
And back to the point, how the hell is a small muscle like the triceps going to make any difference to anything? If a muscle isn't being used much then it's not sucking up anything is it? It's just an extra 200 grams or whatever of weight proximal to a joint (so has a small moment arm) that your whole body is going to have to overcome, it's not going to make any difference.
You're like a treasure trove of misinformation, I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours that doesn't have something stupid in it.
First off....this was all from Madina trying to "bulk" up his biceps..that is clearly ****ing stupid....it is going to use more oxygen, do you deny that larger muscles will use more oxygen? if you do, your a moron...now you could go and use your equation and make a argument that it will actually make him stronger and bluh bluh bluh will be worth it...however...we are talking about Madina doing body builder set type curls to make his biceps big..that is ****ing stupid...and doing body builder type work isnt even going to get him much stronger, just bigger...which will then...yes..cause his body to use more oxygen...or are you going to try to tell me that extra muscle doesnt actually use extra oxygen.
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How can you train the TFL to be more resonsive? Powerful
Theres 2 pieces of Kit Ive been working on, should be out this year. Theres some great stuff can be done on Skates, or Skate Boards. Plus some good Stretches, long chain stuff.
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You can't even put up that much. I told you numerous times to post a video.
I can do more, but I don't feel the need to prove myself to some kid on an Internet forum.

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You said you were in the 1500 club, so post a video of you deadlifting supposedly 600+.
Actually, you said I am, I never claimed such a thing.

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Regardless, it's irrelevant anyway. The point is, I don't lift weights, and I've retained almost everything I lifted before.
So you must not have gained any strength through your 10 years of "power lifting". If you did put some decent weight up it's impossible to maintain that strength without lifting heavy. It's a blatant lie you're telling. That or you're weak as piss, I'm going with you're weak as piss.
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in fact the kind of training needed for hypertrophy does not improve strength much. So you are full of shit.
Wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge. Just sayin'.
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