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Old 02-02-2013, 03:07 PM   #91
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Hi Mate, everything in the Posterior Chain, is Triggered by the TFL, it Orchestrates, conducts all movement and ,. Singles the Bio mechanics of drive. We assume its the Foot, but its not. something of interest .
How can you train the TFL to be more resonsive? Powerful
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:13 PM   #92
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Such a load of nonsense, i can't stand when people say that. More strength = more efficient movement if you hypertrophy fast twitch muscles, if you hypertrophy slow twitch muscles then you have greater peripheral endurance, more capillaries and mitochondria.
hypertrophy...meaning making bigger..doesnt automatically make someone stronger..in fact the kind of training needed for hypertrophy does not improve strength much. So you are full of shit.


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The most important thing is central fitness (VO2max) and lactate tolerance. It's the strength to weight ratio that makes a difference, you can have large muscles and have elite cardio fitness. If your muscles have been trained for whatever activity then the blood goes there, you have the capillaries to offload oxygen. This stupid myth comes from the fact that people who are generally muscular do less cardio and people who are endurance athletes generally do less resistance training. If you can fit both in with a properly periodised plan then having larger muscles is going to help your endurance if they've been trained with your sport in mind.
And back to the point, how the hell is a small muscle like the triceps going to make any difference to anything? If a muscle isn't being used much then it's not sucking up anything is it? It's just an extra 200 grams or whatever of weight proximal to a joint (so has a small moment arm) that your whole body is going to have to overcome, it's not going to make any difference.
You're like a treasure trove of misinformation, I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours that doesn't have something stupid in it.
First off....this was all from Madina trying to "bulk" up his biceps..that is clearly fucking stupid....it is going to use more oxygen, do you deny that larger muscles will use more oxygen? if you do, your a moron...now you could go and use your equation and make a argument that it will actually make him stronger and bluh bluh bluh will be worth it...however...we are talking about Madina doing body builder set type curls to make his biceps big..that is fucking stupid...and doing body builder type work isnt even going to get him much stronger, just bigger...which will then...yes..cause his body to use more oxygen...or are you going to try to tell me that extra muscle doesnt actually use extra oxygen.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:14 PM   #93
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How can you train the TFL to be more resonsive? Powerful
Theres 2 pieces of Kit Ive been working on, should be out this year. Theres some great stuff can be done on Skates, or Skate Boards. Plus some good Stretches, long chain stuff.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:18 PM   #94
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You can't even put up that much. I told you numerous times to post a video.
I can do more, but I don't feel the need to prove myself to some kid on an Internet forum.

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You said you were in the 1500 club, so post a video of you deadlifting supposedly 600+.
Actually, you said I am, I never claimed such a thing.

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Regardless, it's irrelevant anyway. The point is, I don't lift weights, and I've retained almost everything I lifted before.
So you must not have gained any strength through your 10 years of "power lifting". If you did put some decent weight up it's impossible to maintain that strength without lifting heavy. It's a blatant lie you're telling. That or you're weak as piss, I'm going with you're weak as piss.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:22 PM   #95
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in fact the kind of training needed for hypertrophy does not improve strength much. So you are full of shit.
Wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge. Just sayin'.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:33 PM   #96
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I can do more, but I don't feel the need to prove myself to some kid on an Internet forum.



Actually, you said I am, I never claimed such a thing.



So you must not have gained any strength through your 10 years of "power lifting". If you did put some decent weight up it's impossible to maintain that strength without lifting heavy. It's a blatant lie you're telling. That or you're weak as piss, I'm going with you're weak as piss.
LOL.

You're too much, Virus. You live in a fantasy.

My point is, 10% is not much. All bodyweight. Bodyweight for life....BITCH.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:37 PM   #97
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Wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge. Just sayin'.
You are a child Virus...

if you do the type of training that causes hypertrophy will you get stronger than if you do nothing? sure you will. Body builders are after all stronger than your average guy who does no training. But is it the best way to gain strength? no...is it what guys in strength sports shot for...no. now


Now if you are a boxer..and you fight at 147...should you be doing bodybuilder type workouts...fuck no..why..it could give you problems gaining weight (of course Dealt says you wont actually gain enough weight to matter...so why than do body builders do it too get bigger?) its a waste of time and counter productive.


also, everything that I have ever seen says that muscles use oxygen..if you make a muscle bigger, its going to use more oxygen..if it doesnt actually get much stronger..you are shooting yourself in the foot in a sport that is both anerobic as well as aerobic.
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Such a load of nonsense, i can't stand when people say that. More strength = more efficient movement if you hypertrophy fast twitch muscles, if you hypertrophy slow twitch muscles then you have greater peripheral endurance, more capillaries and mitochondria.


http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/origi...-15-9-21-4.jpg



http://www.wallpaper23.com/data/spor...non-briggs.jpg



Look at those huge efficent strong hypertropy biceps moving so well


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Oh yes....those big muscles didnt cost him any oxygen..and it allowed his arms to move so fast and explosively....
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:52 PM   #99
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You are a child Virus...

if you do the type of training that causes hypertrophy will you get stronger than if you do nothing? sure you will. Body builders are after all stronger than your average guy who does no training. But is it the best way to gain strength? no...is it what guys in strength sports shot for...no. now


Now if you are a boxer..and you fight at 147...should you be doing bodybuilder type workouts...fuck no..why..it could give you problems gaining weight (of course Dealt says you wont actually gain enough weight to matter...so why than do body builders do it too get bigger?) its a waste of time and counter productive.


also, everything that I have ever seen says that muscles use oxygen..if you make a muscle bigger, its going to use more oxygen..if it doesnt actually get much stronger..you are shooting yourself in the foot in a sport that is both anerobic as well as aerobic.
I'm a child because you lack knowledge?

What you said was incorrect. I told you you're incorrect. How does that make me a child exactly?

Hypertrophy training does not have to be the classic 3x10, you can get substantial hypertrophy lifting heavy weight for high sets. 10x3 for example.

Why does this even matter anyway? Lifting weights doesn't make you gain weight. Muscle building is irrelevant to boxing.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:58 PM   #100
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I'm a child because you lack knowledge?

What you said was incorrect. I told you you're incorrect. How does that make me a child exactly?

Hypertrophy training does not have to be the classic 3x10, you can get substantial hypertrophy lifting heavy weight for high sets. 10x3 for example.

Why does this even matter anyway? Lifting weights doesn't make you gain weight.
You are pretty stupid, Virus.

Hopefully, you wise up.

You will one day, and I hope you recover fully.

But, I will say, you are a real piece of shit.

LOL.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:00 PM   #101
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You are pretty stupid, Virus.

Hopefully, you wise up.

You will one day, and I hope you recover fully.

But, I will say, you are a real piece of shit.

LOL.
Fail.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:00 PM   #102
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Theres 2 pieces of Kit Ive been working on, should be out this year. Theres some great stuff can be done on Skates, or Skate Boards. Plus some good Stretches, long chain stuff.
do you think this is effective?

BORKED
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:03 PM   #103
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Wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge. Just sayin'.
Virus, remember ylem?
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You are pretty stupid, Virus.

Hopefully, you wise up.

You will one day, and I hope you recover fully.

But, I will say, you are a real piece of shit.

LOL.
You are a horrible poster.
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lol these threads are hilarious, some stuff genuinely makes me chuckle.
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