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Old 02-02-2013, 05:33 PM   #91
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I can do more, but I don't feel the need to prove myself to some kid on an Internet forum.



Actually, you said I am, I never claimed such a thing.



So you must not have gained any strength through your 10 years of "power lifting". If you did put some decent weight up it's impossible to maintain that strength without lifting heavy. It's a blatant lie you're telling. That or you're weak as ****, I'm going with you're weak as ****.
LOL.

You're too much, Virus. You live in a fantasy.

My point is, 10% is not much. All bodyweight. Bodyweight for life....*****.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:37 PM   #92
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Wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge. Just sayin'.
You are a child Virus...

if you do the type of training that causes hypertrophy will you get stronger than if you do nothing? sure you will. Body builders are after all stronger than your average guy who does no training. But is it the best way to gain strength? no...is it what guys in strength sports shot for...no. now


Now if you are a boxer..and you fight at 147...should you be doing bodybuilder type workouts...**** no..why..it could give you problems gaining weight (of course Dealt says you wont actually gain enough weight to matter...so why than do body builders do it too get bigger?) its a waste of time and counter productive.


also, everything that I have ever seen says that muscles use oxygen..if you make a muscle bigger, its going to use more oxygen..if it doesnt actually get much stronger..you are shooting yourself in the foot in a sport that is both anerobic as well as aerobic.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:38 PM   #93
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Such a load of nonsense, i can't stand when people say that. More strength = more efficient movement if you hypertrophy fast twitch muscles, if you hypertrophy slow twitch muscles then you have greater peripheral endurance, more capillaries and mitochondria.


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Oh yes....those big muscles didnt cost him any oxygen..and it allowed his arms to move so fast and explosively....
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:52 PM   #94
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You are a child Virus...

if you do the type of training that causes hypertrophy will you get stronger than if you do nothing? sure you will. Body builders are after all stronger than your average guy who does no training. But is it the best way to gain strength? no...is it what guys in strength sports shot for...no. now


Now if you are a boxer..and you fight at 147...should you be doing bodybuilder type workouts...**** no..why..it could give you problems gaining weight (of course Dealt says you wont actually gain enough weight to matter...so why than do body builders do it too get bigger?) its a waste of time and counter productive.


also, everything that I have ever seen says that muscles use oxygen..if you make a muscle bigger, its going to use more oxygen..if it doesnt actually get much stronger..you are shooting yourself in the foot in a sport that is both anerobic as well as aerobic.
I'm a child because you lack knowledge?

What you said was incorrect. I told you you're incorrect. How does that make me a child exactly?

Hypertrophy training does not have to be the classic 3x10, you can get substantial hypertrophy lifting heavy weight for high sets. 10x3 for example.

Why does this even matter anyway? Lifting weights doesn't make you gain weight. Muscle building is irrelevant to boxing.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:58 PM   #95
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I'm a child because you lack knowledge?

What you said was incorrect. I told you you're incorrect. How does that make me a child exactly?

Hypertrophy training does not have to be the classic 3x10, you can get substantial hypertrophy lifting heavy weight for high sets. 10x3 for example.

Why does this even matter anyway? Lifting weights doesn't make you gain weight.
You are pretty stupid, Virus.

Hopefully, you wise up.

You will one day, and I hope you recover fully.

But, I will say, you are a real piece of ****.

LOL.
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You are pretty stupid, Virus.

Hopefully, you wise up.

You will one day, and I hope you recover fully.

But, I will say, you are a real piece of ****.

LOL.
Fail.
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Theres 2 pieces of Kit Ive been working on, should be out this year. Theres some great stuff can be done on Skates, or Skate Boards. Plus some good Stretches, long chain stuff.
do you think this is effective?

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Wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge. Just sayin'.
Virus, remember ylem?
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You are pretty stupid, Virus.

Hopefully, you wise up.

You will one day, and I hope you recover fully.

But, I will say, you are a real piece of ****.

LOL.
You are a horrible poster.
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lol these threads are hilarious, some stuff genuinely makes me chuckle.
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You are a horrible poster.
Why you say that? Cuz of that crossfit comment I made?

You're not a dummy are you?

Are you doing kippin pull ups?

No, right? So, why the **** you worried about it?

Look at the crossfit injury board. So many damn injuries that there is like thousand pages of posts.

SLAP tears seem to happen when people are doing kipping pull ups.

Look man, you may not be there yet, but you better Thank God every day for your health.

You know as well as I do that deep down, you KNOW bodyweight is the way to go, but you got an ego that tells you otherwise.

But the reality is, you can go full bodyweight, and the strenght loss for particular external weightliftin motions is negligable at best.

So why not just **** with bodyweight?

**** weight training.

Unless you are a freak and can just bust out one are pull ups like they ain't ****.
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Virus, remember ylem?
How could anyone forget?
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Why you say that? Cuz of that crossfit comment I made?

You're not a dummy are you?

Are you doing kippin pull ups?

No, right? So, why the **** you worried about it?

Look at the crossfit injury board. So many damn injuries that there is like thousand pages of posts.

SLAP tears seem to happen when people are doing kipping pull ups.

Look man, you may not be there yet, but you better Thank God every day for your health.

You know as well as I do that deep down, you KNOW bodyweight is the way to go, but you got an ego that tells you otherwise.

But the reality is, you can go full bodyweight, and the strenght loss for particular external weightliftin motions is negligable at best.

So why not just **** with bodyweight?

**** weight training.

Unless you are a freak and can just bust out one are pull ups like they ain't ****.
You're right. We all agree with you.
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How could anyone forget?
Johnstown reminds me of him, giving out flawed advice, getting into debates when people call him out on it etc
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:23 PM   #105
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Why you say that? Cuz of that crossfit comment I made?

You're not a dummy are you?

Are you doing kippin pull ups?

No, right? So, why the **** you worried about it?

Look at the crossfit injury board. So many damn injuries that there is like thousand pages of posts.

SLAP tears seem to happen when people are doing kipping pull ups.

Look man, you may not be there yet, but you better Thank God every day for your health.

You know as well as I do that deep down, you KNOW bodyweight is the way to go, but you got an ego that tells you otherwise.

But the reality is, you can go full bodyweight, and the strenght loss for particular external weightliftin motions is negligable at best.

So why not just **** with bodyweight?

**** weight training.

Unless you are a freak and can just bust out one are pull ups like they ain't ****.
Because virus is the best expert we have here. Years of research and results disagree with your advice. Faulty mechanics and lack of warm up/cool down is what causes injury, not the weightlifting itself if done correctly.

Yes, I do kip and quite well. I also did.strict pullups for years prior so I.am strong enough to prevent slap tears.
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