Muhammad Ali very ill

[fistsof steel]

Originally Posted by LeBeave

Not saying these are my feelings, just expressing that some of the older generation i have spoke to over the years wouldn't classify him as the definition of a hero.

I'm too young to have seen him fight in his prime and stand up for he's refusal to go to war, I can only go on what has been said over the years. I guess some older people didn't like the fact how he went about race issues and calling other blacks uncle Toms...... Some others may say he was a misogynist towards women, i do note touching up his wife is also swept under the carpet.

Icon....yes.

Hero.... not so sure

Yep probably justified for a lot of them Old blokes,lot's of Criticism about the pro's and Cons of the Vietnam War even from the diggers themselves I think Ali said it best Himself when asked why he did not want to go to Vietnam.!!!

"No Viet Cong ever called me ******"

[JOSEY WALES]

Originally Posted by LeBeave

Some may disagree Josey

Yea I know the Beave mate it was just my own personal feelings for the man , when I was nine i wanted to be Clay , used to listen to the fights from the states at 2 in the morning on the radio under my sheets lol I remember it now clear as day , the lions playing down in South Africa as well , happy days for me as a lad .

[LeBeave]

Originally Posted by JOSEY WALES

Yea I know the Beave mate it was just my own personal feelings for the man , when I was nine i wanted to be Clay , used to listen to the fights from the states at 2 in the morning on the radio under my sheets lol I remember it now clear as day , the lions playing down in South Africa as well , happy days for me as a lad .

Sounds like good times alright mate, I guess the only other thing missing was if your parents took up that offer of being a 10pd POM and relocate to the promised land

[xRedx]

Originally Posted by swingin

ive no doubt smokin joe will be there when ali appears at the pearly gates. heaven sees ali vs frazier 4....

Under what religion? Under Christianity, Ali goes to hell and Frazier to Heaven. Under Islam both will probably go to hell since Ali followed some cult that doesn't exist today.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by LeBeave

Not saying these are my feelings, just expressing that some of the older generation i have spoke to over the years wouldn't classify him as the definition of a hero.

I'm too young to have seen him fight in his prime and stand up for he's refusal to go to war, I can only go on what has been said over the years. I guess some older people didn't like the fact how he went about race issues and calling other blacks uncle Toms...... Some others may say he was a misogynist towards women, i do note touching up his wife is also swept under the carpet.

Icon....yes.

Hero.... not so sure

..a hero to me mate..

[swingin]

Originally Posted by xRedx

Under what religion? Under Christianity, Ali goes to hell and Frazier to Heaven. Under Islam both will probably go to hell since Ali followed some cult that doesn't exist today.

am i the only one who realises god is too smart to give a fuck about which book you read?

your relationship with god is between you and him. its not filtered through some 'correct' book. if everyone realised this, there would be less trouble in the world..

[Urone2]

My hope is that his time here on earth was spent well in gods eye, a now if he moves on into the after life we can celebrate his passing in the grand fashion the he lived his life. Let gods will be done, for continued life or death. Celebrate the hero that god set before us.

[darkhorse]

[JOSEY WALES]

[quote=LeBeave;14698899]Sounds like good times alright mate, I guess the only other thing missing was if your parents took up that offer of being a 10pd POM and relocate to the promised land [/

WTF would I do with all that sun ?

[fistsof steel]

Originally Posted by swingin

am i the only one who realises god is too smart to give a fuck about which book you read?

your relationship with god is between you and him. its not filtered through some 'correct' book. if everyone realised this, there would be less trouble in the world..

Theres that many beliefs Christian,Muslim,Hindu,Buddhist,even Scientology to name a few and they cant all be correct,I worship Boxing and the Planet and when I die theres nothing end of story.!!!

[Cinderella Man]

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[fistsof steel]

Great news hope the Champ has a few more years left.!!!!

[left jab danny]

Originally Posted by LeBeave

Not saying these are my feelings, just expressing that some of the older generation i have spoke to over the years wouldn't classify him as the definition of a hero.

I'm too young to have seen him fight in his prime and stand up for he's refusal to go to war, I can only go on what has been said over the years. I guess some older people didn't like the fact how he went about race issues and calling other blacks uncle Toms...... Some others may say he was a misogynist towards women, i do note touching up his wife is also swept under the carpet.

Icon....yes.

Hero.... not so sure

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The way he turned on people who helped him out when he was in a financial mess was really low class.
Calling other black fighters uncle toms wasn't cool and It's well known he used to bash his wife.
These arn't exactly the traits of a hero,the guy was a great boxer but he was a narcissist if ever there was one.

[Nigelbro]

Originally Posted by swingin

am i the only one who realises god is too smart to give a fuck about which book you read?

your relationship with god is between you and him. its not filtered through some 'correct' book. if everyone realised this, there would be less trouble in the world..

You should put this on Facebook, fucken buttload of people on there. Wait until they hear the good news.
Fuck being the only one, Gallileo was the only one, died lonely.