Top 400 All Time Greats

[the cobra]

Seamus is more of the contrarian/hipster type (in the immortal words of the long lost Pachilles).

Originally posted by Boxed Ears
In before ThinBlack.

It's ike 4 years before, now.

[red cobra]

Originally Posted by McGrain

List of grumpy Classic posters.

1) Red Cobra
2) Seamus

Fuck these lists...why not just make a list of 1000 boxers..all boxers of all time..don't leave anybody out.

[red cobra]

Originally Posted by McGrain

List of grumpy Classic posters.

1) Red Cobra
2) Seamus

[red cobra]

This list obsession is as tedious as college algebra.

[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by red cobra

This list obsession is as tedious as college algebra.

It's how it seems to be with all sports these days.

[turbotime]

jeesh. 400? Props on the effort.


Wilde above Ali though....

[red cobra]

WHAT??? Timoshek is at 1067 and Halstead is only 1889???? Outrageous!!!! Outrageous I tell you...

[Hands of Iron]

RC's christmas wish list:

[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by trampie

1] Sugar Ray Robinson
2] Henry Armstrong
3] Langford
4] Greb
5] Duran
6] B.Leonard
7] Wilde
8] Ali
9] Louis
10] Pep
11] Charles
12] Fitzsimmons
13] Gans
14] R.Leonard
15] Hagler
16] Walker
17] Moore
18] Jofre
19] Tunney
20] Jack Johnson
21] Monzon
22] Whitaker
23] B.Ross
24] Saddler
25] Canzoneri
26] Salvador Sanchez
27] Babadoes Joe Walcott
28] Ketchel
29] I.Williams
30] Burley
31] Marciano
32] Jack Dempsey
33] Roy Jones Jnr
34] Holmes
35] Dixon
36] Cesar Charvez
37] E.Griffith
38] Arguello
39] Holyfield
40] Kid Gavilan
41] Hearns
42] Napoles
43] Packey McFarland
44] Freddie Welsh
45] Driscoll
46] C.Ortiz
47] L.Lewis
48] Mayweather Jnr
49] Harada
50] Britton
51] Olivares
52] M.Spinks
53] Calzaghe
54] Hopkins
55] Wills
56] W.Gomez
57] foster
58] Loughran
59] LM Rodriquez
60] Villa
61] Al Brown
62] M.Ortiz
63] Dick Tiger
64] Conn
65] Attell
66] Pascual Perez
67] Canto
68] McGovern
69] Ted Kid Lewis
70] Kid Chocolate
71] Joe Brown
72] Tiger Flower
73] Cerdan
74] Jeffries
75] Basilio
76] McLarnin
77] T.Ryan
78] Beau Jack
79] Angott
80] Pryer
81] McCallum
82] W.Benitez
83] De La Hoya
84] Billy Graham
85] Gibbons
86] Kilbane
87] Blackburn
88] Ambers
89] Tyson
90] H.Williams
91] Liston
92] Herman
93] Philly Jack O'Brien
94] Loi
95] Cervantes
96] Zarate
97] Giardello
98] Trinidad
99] Buchanan
100]Laguna
101]Montgomery
102]Barrera
103]Dundee
104]Zale
105]Vicente Salvador
106]LaBarba
107]Kid Williams
108]Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
109]Elorde
110]Genero
111]Battling Nelson
112]Rosenbloom
113]La Motta
114]Foreman
115]Frazier
116]R.Lopez
117]Carpentier
118]Locche
119]Pacquiao
120]Kane
121]Jersey Joe Walcott
122]Dillon
123]Marshall
124]Graziano
125]Delaney
126]Camacho
127]Sharkey
128]J.Lynch
129]Kingpetch
130]Barry
131]Ad Wolgast
132]Benvenuti
133]Baer
134]Jeanette
135]Tendler
136]Buff
137]Coulon
138]Chandler
139]Holly
140]DeJesus
141]Young P.Jackson
142]Winky Wright
143]Mosley
144]Morales
145]Blackburn
146]Griffo
147]B.Lynch
148]Kid Berg
149]H.Johnson
150]Mandell
151]Escobar
152]Freddie Steele
153]Azumah Nelson
154]Bud Taylor
155]Accavallo
156]Young Corbett 111
157]Booker
158]Bivins
159]Moran
160]Ohba
161]H.Gonzalez
162]Toney
163]James J Corbett
164]Patterson
165]Kid McCoy
166]Galaxy
167]Freddie Miller
168]Carbajal
169]F.Burns
170]Winstone
171]Levinsky
172]Fullmer
173]McAuliffe
174]McGuigan
175]Pintor
176]Coulon
177]Pal Moore
178]Becerra
179]E.Pedrozsa
180]Fenech
181]Honeyghan
182]Joey Archer
183]Qawi
184]John Henry Lewis
185]Hamed
186]Collins
187]Saad Muhammed
188]Perkins
189]Schmeling
190]Turpin
191]Gushiken
192]George Gardner
193]Jung Koo Chang
194]John L Sullivan
195]Ritchie
196]Kilbane
197]Bowe
198]Eubank
199]Kid Lavigne
200]Zivic
201]Benn
202]Terry Norris
203]Midget Wolgast
204]Lew Jenkins
205]Maxim
206]Darcey
207]Freddie Mills
208]Papp
209]Rosenberg
210]Percy Jones
211]Battling Battalino
212]Stansol
213]Laciar
214]Kid Norfolk
215]Nunn
216]Danny Lopez
217]Tommy Burns
218]Mormack
219]Michalczewski
220]Virgil Hill
221]Tiozzo
222]Carruthers
223]Chalky Wright
224]Young Corbett 11
225]Papke
226]George Godfrey
227]Choynski
228]Johansson
229]Arcachakov
230]Kid Kaplan
231]Jackie Paterson
232]Mark Johnson
233]Cocoa Kid
234]Arizmendi
235]Young Jack Thompson
236]Klaus
237]Tancey Lee
238]Sun Kil Moon
239]Jeffra
240]Chionoi
241]Salica
242]Marcias
243]Bass
244]Jackie Fields
245]Tiger Fox
246]Davey Moore
247]Curry
248]Dixie Kidd
249]Zamora
250]Mcvea
251]Bushy Graham
252]Burruni
253]Carlos De Leon
254]Halimi
255]Norton
256]Jack Root
257]Young Stribbling
258]Petrolle
259]Billy Smith
260]Dado
261]Carter
262]O'Dowd
263]Wajima
264]Chase
265]Hatton
266]Monaghan
267]Gilberto Roman
268]Saxton
269]Escalera
270]McGirt
271]Tszyu
272]Carlos Hernandez
273]Canizales
274]Goldstein
275]Black Bill
276]Rocky Kansas
277]Frankie Fleming
278]Cochrane
279]Zaragoza
280]Yarosz
281]Myung-woo Yuh
282]Lockridge
283]Legra
284]Pladner
285]Berlenbach
286]Ebihara
287]Carattoli
288]Palamino
289]Marcel
290]Valdez
291]Olson
292]Montanez
293]Elky Clark
294]Watanabe
295]Rafael Marquez
296]Mando Ramos
297]Zapata
298]Rose
299]Ceferino Garcia
300]Britt
301]L.Espinosa
302]Jeff Clark
303]Hart
304]Jose Torres
305]Jeff Harding
306]Herrera
307]Kalambay
308]Joyce
309]Borkhorsov
310]Castro
311]Lora
312]Coker
313]Brian Mitchell
314]Lou Bogash
315]Siki
316]Sugar Ramos
317]Betulio Gonzalez
318]Cuevas
319]Efren Torres
320]Coggi
321]Carlos Teo Cruz
322]Starling
323]Rosario
324]Kobayashi
325]Johnny Nelson
326]Ramey
327]Castillo
328]Bassett
329]Meldrick Taylor
330]Gerald McClellan
331]Kid Aztec
332]Thil
333]Mazzinghi
334]Frankie Randall
335]Kalule
336]Day
337]McCrory
338]Ishimatsu
339]Sarron
340]Junior Jones
341]Aspostoli
342]Lora
343]Willard
344]Farr
345]Newsboy Brown
346]Ottke
347]Freitas
348]Famechon
349]Alvarez
350]Brouilard
351]Miske
352]Austin
353]Sharmba Mitchell
354]Wonjongkam
355]Tokuyama
356]Tod Morgan
357]Villaflor
358]Niida
359]Morel
360]MA Gonzalez
361]Cory Spinks
362]Aguirre
363]Salavarria
364]Sorjaturong
365]Wlad Klitschko
366]Pastrano
367]Milton McCrory
368]Toweel
369]kawashima
370]Larios
371]Vargas
372]Bungu
373]Pender
374]Baxton
375]McKinney
376]Juan Diaz
377]Mugabi
378]Hasegawa
379]Serrano
380]Cohen
381]Orlin Norris
382]Jordan
383]Callahan
384]P.Jackson
385]Fujii
386]Shirai
387]James J Braddock
388]Jirov
389]Bramble
390]Davila
391]Marino
392]Shibata
393]Lujan
394]Paret
395]Chris John
396]Mamby
397]Kessler
398]Barkley
399]Pavlik
400]Jermain Taylor

I went to update my top 200 because i realised after putting up a thread about Ken Buchanan, that i had left Ismael Laguna off the list, also i realised i had not treated Packey McFarland fairly in my original list, i originally placed him inside the top 100, but after reading about him, a top 50 place just above one of his victims Freddie Welsh would be fairer, the
big loser in this reshuffle is Felix Trinidad who i had reservations about when i had him at #80 is now dropped down to #98.
When i drew up a top 200, i had a short list of well over 300 boxers, so i added some more boxers to end up with a nice round number of 400.
The top 100 is in some sort of order,places 100-200 is difficult to categorize and places 200-400 is virtually impossible to rank in order. I admit the lower down the list the less effort has gone into ranking the boxers, if i am missing somebody or i have a 'doubler' or there a rankings that are clearly wrong, let me know and i will change them, all comments welcome.
{things were starting to get so desperate towards the end of the list that if i had a top 500, Antonio Tarver and William Joppy would have been in it.}

You must have spent a lot of time over this

[anj]

Originally Posted by trampie

1] Sugar Ray Robinson
2] Henry Armstrong
3] Langford
4] Greb
5] Duran
6] B.Leonard
7] Wilde
8] Ali
9] Louis
10] Pep
11] Charles
12] Fitzsimmons
13] Gans
14] R.Leonard
15] Hagler
16] Walker
17] Moore
18] Jofre
19] Tunney
20] Jack Johnson
21] Monzon
22] Whitaker
23] B.Ross
24] Saddler
25] Canzoneri
26] Salvador Sanchez
27] Babadoes Joe Walcott
28] Ketchel
29] I.Williams
30] Burley
31] Marciano
32] Jack Dempsey
33] Roy Jones Jnr
34] Holmes
35] Dixon
36] Cesar Charvez
37] E.Griffith
38] Arguello
39] Holyfield
40] Kid Gavilan
41] Hearns
42] Napoles
43] Packey McFarland
44] Freddie Welsh
45] Driscoll
46] C.Ortiz
47] L.Lewis
48] Mayweather Jnr
49] Harada
50] Britton
51] Olivares
52] M.Spinks
53] Calzaghe
54] Hopkins
55] Wills
56] W.Gomez
57] foster
58] Loughran
59] LM Rodriquez
60] Villa
61] Al Brown
62] M.Ortiz
63] Dick Tiger
64] Conn
65] Attell
66] Pascual Perez
67] Canto
68] McGovern
69] Ted Kid Lewis
70] Kid Chocolate
71] Joe Brown
72] Tiger Flower
73] Cerdan
74] Jeffries
75] Basilio
76] McLarnin
77] T.Ryan
78] Beau Jack
79] Angott
80] Pryer
81] McCallum
82] W.Benitez
83] De La Hoya
84] Billy Graham
85] Gibbons
86] Kilbane
87] Blackburn
88] Ambers
89] Tyson
90] H.Williams
91] Liston
92] Herman
93] Philly Jack O'Brien
94] Loi
95] Cervantes
96] Zarate
97] Giardello
98] Trinidad
99] Buchanan
100]Laguna
101]Montgomery
102]Barrera
103]Dundee
104]Zale
105]Vicente Salvador
106]LaBarba
107]Kid Williams
108]Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
109]Elorde
110]Genero
111]Battling Nelson
112]Rosenbloom
113]La Motta
114]Foreman
115]Frazier
116]R.Lopez
117]Carpentier
118]Locche
119]Pacquiao
120]Kane
121]Jersey Joe Walcott
122]Dillon
123]Marshall
124]Graziano
125]Delaney
126]Camacho
127]Sharkey
128]J.Lynch
129]Kingpetch
130]Barry
131]Ad Wolgast
132]Benvenuti
133]Baer
134]Jeanette
135]Tendler
136]Buff
137]Coulon
138]Chandler
139]Holly
140]DeJesus
141]Young P.Jackson
142]Winky Wright
143]Mosley
144]Morales
145]Blackburn
146]Griffo
147]B.Lynch
148]Kid Berg
149]H.Johnson
150]Mandell
151]Escobar
152]Freddie Steele
153]Azumah Nelson
154]Bud Taylor
155]Accavallo
156]Young Corbett 111
157]Booker
158]Bivins
159]Moran
160]Ohba
161]H.Gonzalez
162]Toney
163]James J Corbett
164]Patterson
165]Kid McCoy
166]Galaxy
167]Freddie Miller
168]Carbajal
169]F.Burns
170]Winstone
171]Levinsky
172]Fullmer
173]McAuliffe
174]McGuigan
175]Pintor
176]Coulon
177]Pal Moore
178]Becerra
179]E.Pedrozsa
180]Fenech
181]Honeyghan
182]Joey Archer
183]Qawi
184]John Henry Lewis
185]Hamed
186]Collins
187]Saad Muhammed
188]Perkins
189]Schmeling
190]Turpin
191]Gushiken
192]George Gardner
193]Jung Koo Chang
194]John L Sullivan
195]Ritchie
196]Kilbane
197]Bowe
198]Eubank
199]Kid Lavigne
200]Zivic
201]Benn
202]Terry Norris
203]Midget Wolgast
204]Lew Jenkins
205]Maxim
206]Darcey
207]Freddie Mills
208]Papp
209]Rosenberg
210]Percy Jones
211]Battling Battalino
212]Stansol
213]Laciar
214]Kid Norfolk
215]Nunn
216]Danny Lopez
217]Tommy Burns
218]Mormack
219]Michalczewski
220]Virgil Hill
221]Tiozzo
222]Carruthers
223]Chalky Wright
224]Young Corbett 11
225]Papke
226]George Godfrey
227]Choynski
228]Johansson
229]Arcachakov
230]Kid Kaplan
231]Jackie Paterson
232]Mark Johnson
233]Cocoa Kid
234]Arizmendi
235]Young Jack Thompson
236]Klaus
237]Tancey Lee
238]Sun Kil Moon
239]Jeffra
240]Chionoi
241]Salica
242]Marcias
243]Bass
244]Jackie Fields
245]Tiger Fox
246]Davey Moore
247]Curry
248]Dixie Kidd
249]Zamora
250]Mcvea
251]Bushy Graham
252]Burruni
253]Carlos De Leon
254]Halimi
255]Norton
256]Jack Root
257]Young Stribbling
258]Petrolle
259]Billy Smith
260]Dado
261]Carter
262]O'Dowd
263]Wajima
264]Chase
265]Hatton
266]Monaghan
267]Gilberto Roman
268]Saxton
269]Escalera
270]McGirt
271]Tszyu
272]Carlos Hernandez
273]Canizales
274]Goldstein
275]Black Bill
276]Rocky Kansas
277]Frankie Fleming
278]Cochrane
279]Zaragoza
280]Yarosz
281]Myung-woo Yuh
282]Lockridge
283]Legra
284]Pladner
285]Berlenbach
286]Ebihara
287]Carattoli
288]Palamino
289]Marcel
290]Valdez
291]Olson
292]Montanez
293]Elky Clark
294]Watanabe
295]Rafael Marquez
296]Mando Ramos
297]Zapata
298]Rose
299]Ceferino Garcia
300]Britt
301]L.Espinosa
302]Jeff Clark
303]Hart
304]Jose Torres
305]Jeff Harding
306]Herrera
307]Kalambay
308]Joyce
309]Borkhorsov
310]Castro
311]Lora
312]Coker
313]Brian Mitchell
314]Lou Bogash
315]Siki
316]Sugar Ramos
317]Betulio Gonzalez
318]Cuevas
319]Efren Torres
320]Coggi
321]Carlos Teo Cruz
322]Starling
323]Rosario
324]Kobayashi
325]Johnny Nelson
326]Ramey
327]Castillo
328]Bassett
329]Meldrick Taylor
330]Gerald McClellan
331]Kid Aztec
332]Thil
333]Mazzinghi
334]Frankie Randall
335]Kalule
336]Day
337]McCrory
338]Ishimatsu
339]Sarron
340]Junior Jones
341]Aspostoli
342]Lora
343]Willard
344]Farr
345]Newsboy Brown
346]Ottke
347]Freitas
348]Famechon
349]Alvarez
350]Brouilard
351]Miske
352]Austin
353]Sharmba Mitchell
354]Wonjongkam
355]Tokuyama
356]Tod Morgan
357]Villaflor
358]Niida
359]Morel
360]MA Gonzalez
361]Cory Spinks
362]Aguirre
363]Salavarria
364]Sorjaturong
365]Wlad Klitschko
366]Pastrano
367]Milton McCrory
368]Toweel
369]kawashima
370]Larios
371]Vargas
372]Bungu
373]Pender
374]Baxton
375]McKinney
376]Juan Diaz
377]Mugabi
378]Hasegawa
379]Serrano
380]Cohen
381]Orlin Norris
382]Jordan
383]Callahan
384]P.Jackson
385]Fujii
386]Shirai
387]James J Braddock
388]Jirov
389]Bramble
390]Davila
391]Marino
392]Shibata
393]Lujan
394]Paret
395]Chris John
396]Mamby
397]Kessler
398]Barkley
399]Pavlik
400]Jermain Taylor

I went to update my top 200 because i realised after putting up a thread about Ken Buchanan, that i had left Ismael Laguna off the list, also i realised i had not treated Packey McFarland fairly in my original list, i originally placed him inside the top 100, but after reading about him, a top 50 place just above one of his victims Freddie Welsh would be fairer, the
big loser in this reshuffle is Felix Trinidad who i had reservations about when i had him at #80 is now dropped down to #98.
When i drew up a top 200, i had a short list of well over 300 boxers, so i added some more boxers to end up with a nice round number of 400.
The top 100 is in some sort of order,places 100-200 is difficult to categorize and places 200-400 is virtually impossible to rank in order. I admit the lower down the list the less effort has gone into ranking the boxers, if i am missing somebody or i have a 'doubler' or there a rankings that are clearly wrong, let me know and i will change them, all comments welcome.
{things were starting to get so desperate towards the end of the list that if i had a top 500, Antonio Tarver and William Joppy would have been in it.}

This is up there with the weirdest things I've seen on the internet, almost near to 2girls1cup.



How can you give props to this list? This dude must have some sorta OCD issue. I thought I was being semi-crazy trying to make a top 50 list.

[salsanchezfan]

The truly funny thing is that somewhere, someone will take the time to argue the worth of Mark Johnson at #232.

[burt bienstock]

"What fools these mortals be ". Hard enough to pick the top 10 fighters, let alone the top 400 fighters. An exercise in futility...To put the great Jack Dempsey H2H #,32, when he at 187 pounds destroyed anyone he met irregardless of weight, irregardless of the polls naming him the best HW,polled by experts who saw him. Yes he went Hollywood for three years ,but this doesn't alter the fact that no 187 pound fighter ,could do what Dempsey did, maybe excluding Fitz and old Tham Langford...Politics aside !