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Old 02-06-2013, 01:01 PM   #1
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Default Ward's a more complete fighter than Calzaghe ...

Calzaghe is a great undefeated champion who beat lots of good fighters like Eubank , Ferreyra , Robin Reid , Lacy , Bika , Kessler , Hopkins and RJJ but Ward is on another level of skills and he masters very well his craft , period.

I don't even want to think what Ward would do to Calzaghe with his inside roughness game.

How do you see this fight going ?
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:03 PM   #2
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Who has ever said otherwise?

Ward is clearly more versatile.

Calzaghe has more hand speed and throws a higher volume. In just about every other relevant category Ward either tops him or they are level.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:05 PM   #3
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Let's wait to see what Ward does over the next decade - hopefully leaving his homebase a couple times, taking on the top challenges on even terms and fighting more frequently - before we make all of these comparisons to Calzaghe.

Ward may very well top Calzaghe in terms of accomplishment one day. But it's way too early to be making these comparisons right now.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:06 PM   #4
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Default Re: Ward's a more complete fighter than Calzaghe ...

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Who has ever said otherwise?

Ward is clearly more versatile.

Calzaghe has more hand speed and throws a higher volume. In just about every other relevant category Ward either tops him or they are level.


Joe has hand speed, Ward is more versatile.

No need for fans of one or the other to act like their guy is superior, physically, in every way.

As far as the ambition to fight the best available, they are not comparable at all, however.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:36 PM   #5
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Let's wait to see what Ward does over the next decade - hopefully leaving his homebase a couple times, taking on the top challenges on even terms and fighting more frequently - before we make all of these comparisons to Calzaghe.

Ward may very well top Calzaghe in terms of accomplishment one day. But it's way too early to be making these comparisons right now.
I couldnīt have said it better...but will add. that if you LOOK at Clazaghe in his early years was a hard puncher!! But his hands was desroyed by that and he began throwing faster combinations and lesser KO punches...Calzaghe had an awesome career.Ward is just started,but he sure has all the talent,but give him some time...Before making useless and meanningless comparising.Maybe you think Ward would beat JC,and another wont..okay great!!!
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:45 PM   #6
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Calzaghe still beats him..
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:46 PM   #7
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Calzaghe still beats him..
What, now?
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:48 PM   #8
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Are we talking about Sven Warddke who has no passport and he only fight has beens,cans and leftovers? Warddke who wanted to fight a drunk who retired for his next fight? You should make a thread about him and Sven Ottke,not Joe.
Do you really want to open the "level of opposition" and "willingness to travel" can of worms as it relates to Calzaghe?
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:52 PM   #9
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What, now?
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Prime Hopkins got slammed around
Prime Roy Jones Jr got beaten by an old green lhw in CalSLAMmy

Greatest of all time ahead of Salty Ray Leonard.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:03 PM   #10
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both ducked pavlik

but seriously though...there is an epic gif on here that gets posted repeatedly of calzaghe throwing a several slap combo against hopkins while hopkins is on the ropes and nothing but the air got hit.

never see that out of ward. ward is a more complete fighter but joe was tough as shit and it would be a good fight.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:04 PM   #11
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calzahe whoops him. ward is hit way to often and way to slow for calazaghe. if ward was german this convo wouldnt even be happening but as his passport has USA on it.....I mean even Froch who is in no means quick and more a limited slugger type landed 30% of his punches on Ward (kessler landed 35%). Plus calzaghe didnt get dropped by a no-name bum and fight out of Newport his entire career.
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Calzaghe is a great undefeated champion who beat lots of good fighters like Eubank , Ferreyra , Robin Reid , Lacy , Bika , Kessler , Hopkins and RJJ but Ward is on another level of skills and he masters very well his craft , period.

I don't even want to think what Ward would do to Calzaghe with his inside roughness game.

How do you see this fight going ?
Ward-Bika was 7-5 imo not what the pitiful hometown scores had and a very close fight. Calzaghe beat Bika much more convincingly with much of the action being fought inside and Calzaghe looking brilliant doing it.

Ward and Hunter are very good at coming up with gameplans and Ward at implementing them, Joe could do it in the moment and improvise at any point during the fight to make necessary adjustments. Maybe his most unique and formitable quality.
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Who has ever said otherwise?

Ward is clearly more versatile.

Calzaghe has more hand speed and throws a higher volume. In just about every other relevant category Ward either tops him or they are level.
has a better chin to., didnt get dropped by a nobody.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:11 PM   #15
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Ward would lose a close but clear UD to a prime Joe Cal.

After my Pizza I shall explain why, if anyone doubts my genius.

(Sturm vs Soliman does not count.)
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