Ward's a more complete fighter than Calzaghe ...

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Arran

has a better chin to., didnt get dropped by a nobody.

Ward got hurt by Kost and Boone within his first year in the pros. Since then we've seen him rumble with world class punchers and not bat an eyelash.

Both have excellent chins.

It isn't as though Joe's never been hurt or dropped whatsoever. Reid, Brewer, shot Eubank, shot Jones...

[Vysotsky]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Ward got hurt by Kost and Boone within his first year in the pros. Since then we've seen him rumble with world class punchers and not bat an eyelash.

Both have excellent chins.

It isn't as though Joe's never been hurt or dropped whatsoever. Reid, Brewer, shot Eubank, shot Jones...

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Jones was a forearm shot and Joe was 37...if you're discarding Ward's early career then discard the Bhop and Jones KD's. The young Ward is more applicable than a old Calzaghe, keep it consistant.

Also irrelevant for the H2H discussion since Ward's feather fists arent going to do anything to Joe.

[dyna]

Originally Posted by Vysotsky

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Jones was a forearm shot and Joe was 37...if you're discarding Ward's early career then discard the Bhop and Jones KD's. The young Ward is more applicable than a old Calzaghe, keep it consistant.

It would have probably been worse for Calslappy if that shot had been with the gloves.
There is a reason why nobody in MMA uses their forearm for punches.

[FilipMNE]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Who has ever said otherwise?

Ward is clearly more versatile.

Calzaghe has more hand speed and throws a higher volume. In just about every other relevant category Ward either tops him or they are level.

[dbouziane]

Originally Posted by Vysotsky

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The young Ward is more applicable than a old Calzaghe, keep it consistant.

calzaghe was old when compared to hopkins and jones

[Vysotsky]

Originally Posted by dbouziane

calzaghe was old when compared to hopkins and jones

Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.

[dyna]

Originally Posted by Vysotsky

Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.

Isn't Roy 4 years older than Cal?

[dbouziane]

Originally Posted by Vysotsky

Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.

both guys have been found. that's the point. calzaghe has been found throughout his career. calzaghe has a good chin and no one is saying otherwise. that is all that was said and youre getting snippy about it.

[flashy k.o]

Originally Posted by Jo Ber

Are we talking about Sven Warddke who has no passport and he only fight has beens,cans and leftovers? Warddke who wanted to fight a drunk who retired for his next fight? You should make a thread about him and Sven Ottke,not Joe.

I knew it !

Ward beats Calzaghe , period !

[Tora]

ward controls the distance in this one
which wins him the fight

[Vysotsky]

Originally Posted by dbouziane

both guys have been found. that's the point. calzaghe has been found throughout his career. calzaghe has a good chin and no one is saying otherwise. that is all that was said and youre getting snippy about it.

Well when you leave posts like this...

Originally Posted by dbouziane

calzaghe was old when compared to hopkins and jones

and miss the point of what you're responding to whether due to stupidity or just trying to deflect the argument i shouldn't have wasted my time.

[bigboots]

I think Ward in his prime would have beat Calzaghe in his prime. His ringcraft & defensive skills would have edged it. Would have been some fight.

[PetethePrince]

Originally Posted by Vysotsky

Ward-Bika was 7-5 imo not what the pitiful hometown scores had and a very close fight. Calzaghe beat Bika much more convincingly with much of the action being fought inside and Calzaghe looking brilliant doing it.

Ward and Hunter are very good at coming up with gameplans and Ward at implementing them, Joe could do it in the moment and improvise at any point during the fight to make necessary adjustments. Maybe his most unique and formitable quality.

I remember Calzaghe-Bika being very close and scrappy. Comparable to Ward-Bika in scoring.

[FilipMNE]

Originally Posted by Vysotsky

Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.

Ali is clear example of opposite!

[dyna]

Originally Posted by FilipMNE

Ali is clear example of opposite!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...udfeo1_400.jpg

Disgraceful glass, would have been a lhw today.