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Old 02-06-2013, 02:11 PM   #16
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has a better chin to., didnt get dropped by a nobody.
Ward got hurt by Kost and Boone within his first year in the pros. Since then we've seen him rumble with world class punchers and not bat an eyelash.

Both have excellent chins.

It isn't as though Joe's never been hurt or dropped whatsoever. Reid, Brewer, shot Eubank, shot Jones...
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:13 PM   #17
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Ward got hurt by Kost and Boone within his first year in the pros. Since then we've seen him rumble with world class punchers and not bat an eyelash.

Both have excellent chins.

It isn't as though Joe's never been hurt or dropped whatsoever. Reid, Brewer, shot Eubank, shot Jones...
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Jones was a forearm shot and Joe was 37...if you're discarding Ward's early career then discard the Bhop and Jones KD's. The young Ward is more applicable than a old Calzaghe, keep it consistant.

Also irrelevant for the H2H discussion since Ward's feather fists arent going to do anything to Joe.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:15 PM   #18
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Jones was a forearm shot and Joe was 37...if you're discarding Ward's early career then discard the Bhop and Jones KD's. The young Ward is more applicable than a old Calzaghe, keep it consistant.
It would have probably been worse for Calslappy if that shot had been with the gloves.
There is a reason why nobody in MMA uses their forearm for punches.
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Who has ever said otherwise?

Ward is clearly more versatile.

Calzaghe has more hand speed and throws a higher volume. In just about every other relevant category Ward either tops him or they are level.
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The young Ward is more applicable than a old Calzaghe, keep it consistant.
calzaghe was old when compared to hopkins and jones
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calzaghe was old when compared to hopkins and jones
Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:22 PM   #22
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Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.
Isn't Roy 4 years older than Cal?
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:23 PM   #23
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Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.
both guys have been found. that's the point. calzaghe has been found throughout his career. calzaghe has a good chin and no one is saying otherwise. that is all that was said and youre getting snippy about it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #24
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Are we talking about Sven Warddke who has no passport and he only fight has beens,cans and leftovers? Warddke who wanted to fight a drunk who retired for his next fight? You should make a thread about him and Sven Ottke,not Joe.
I knew it !

Ward beats Calzaghe , period !
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #25
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ward controls the distance in this one
which wins him the fight
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:29 PM   #26
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both guys have been found. that's the point. calzaghe has been found throughout his career. calzaghe has a good chin and no one is saying otherwise. that is all that was said and youre getting snippy about it.
Well when you leave posts like this...

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calzaghe was old when compared to hopkins and jones
and miss the point of what you're responding to whether due to stupidity or just trying to deflect the argument i shouldn't have wasted my time.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:29 PM   #27
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I think Ward in his prime would have beat Calzaghe in his prime. His ringcraft & defensive skills would have edged it. Would have been some fight.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:30 PM   #28
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Ward-Bika was 7-5 imo not what the pitiful hometown scores had and a very close fight. Calzaghe beat Bika much more convincingly with much of the action being fought inside and Calzaghe looking brilliant doing it.

Ward and Hunter are very good at coming up with gameplans and Ward at implementing them, Joe could do it in the moment and improvise at any point during the fight to make necessary adjustments. Maybe his most unique and formitable quality.
I remember Calzaghe-Bika being very close and scrappy. Comparable to Ward-Bika in scoring.
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Calzaghe 37, Jones 38. Regardless its in relation to chin discussion genius. A fighters chin is more likely to lose resistance as they get older, having a poor chin at 25 and it magically getting better at 28 isn't commonplace on the other hand.
Ali is clear example of opposite!
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