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Old 02-06-2013, 07:05 PM   #16
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Botha will take a dive IMO.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:07 PM   #17
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It won't be the first time it's ever happened, Don't have a coronary mate

you suggest you know 'the inner workins' (sic) of boxing, yet you cant answer my questions as to how they can make a dive payable!!
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:22 PM   #18
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you suggest you know 'the inner workins' (sic) of boxing, yet you cant answer my questions as to how they can make a dive payable!!

It's not rocket science.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:26 PM   #19
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It's not rocket science.
then it will be easy for you to explain....

so go ahead. we are facinated...
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:30 PM   #20
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then it will be easy for you to explain....

so go ahead. we are facinated...
How difficult is it to give someone some money, it gets done all the time mate, come out from under your rock, naturally they arent going to write it into the fight contract
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:33 PM   #21
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How difficult is it to give someone some money, it gets done all the time mate, come out from under your rock, naturally they arent going to write it into the fight contract
ohhh. so they offer money. ****in amazing. id never have thought of that.

what are the guarantees for both sides..... i mean, all this treachery cant be based on trust...can it?
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:46 PM   #22
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you suggest you know 'the inner workins' (sic) of boxing, yet you cant answer my questions as to how they can make a dive payable!!
Well I don't know for sure but this guy is old,shot and just in it for a pay cheque these days. IMO the SBW/Khoder circus puts Barnum and Bailey to shame. Botha will be getting good coin to not hurt SBW and put on a show but lose IMO.

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Pianeta domainates Botha, Time to say goodbye to White Buffalo
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In a big Friday Night of boxing at the RWE Rhein-Ruhr Sporthalle in Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany Italian based German contender Francesco Pianeta widely decisioned long known South African boxer Francois Botha in a one sided affair that may have ended Botha’s [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].
Pianeta, 27, Simply had [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] outmatched, So much faster and stronger. He was literally dancing around the ” White Buffalo ” from the first bell. Anytime he wanted to he could come in and catch Botha. Who for the majority of the fight just relaxed in the corner and got his head bounced back from the Italian-German contender’s not so powerful shots. It was a completely disappointing, None-spirited performance by the South African. More like a paycheck performance to earn some more money in a main event then an opportunity to win and get back to world level seeing how he didn’t even try when Pianeta left himself wide open at times.
Now on the other hand Pianeta looked well focused and actually impressed me a bit with his great accuracy and speed. But he was facing an old – May I add terribly conditioned Botha so while I did think this was the best I have seen Pianeta, this was not exactly a Klitschko he was in the ring with. So I give him praise and want to see more of him of course but not against older guys like Botha, or his last opponent Oliver McCall. Living in Germany you got guys like Kubrat Pulev, Robert Helenius, Alexander Povetkin who fight there regularly under Sauerland Events promotions. He is with Ulf Stienforth now which I believe he should transfer to Sauerland from when possible seeing Stienforth has no real opponents to put Fransesco in with. Botha on the other hand should retire. He is so slow and simply does not care to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] now. I will not want to watch him again after going a gross 1-4-1 in his last 6 bouts.
Pianeta stands as a southpaw, and moves very awkwardly. Plus is not known well or worth much as a fighter so most don’t care to face him. But he needs a top 20 guy soon. No more has-been opponents like McCall and Botha. Time for big guys like Povetkin, Pulev, Helenius as I said previously. Or even a ride to the UK for Price, Fury, Chisora, Haye which would be nice. To get any of these I say again he himself needs a big promoter like Sauerland or maybe ******. No promoter will risk their star guys in with someone who is high risk and with another promoter. But yes he does deserve [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], He is (26-0-1). Against guys most below top 20 but still decent opposition so time to take that next step seeing how he has been flawless mostly at this level. And I recommend you keep a glancing eye on him through the ride of his career.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:51 PM   #23
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SBW is no Pianeta.....

SBW wont box like Pianeta, he will stand in front of botha and exchange. either botha stands and trades bombs, or he covers up and gets outa there early by ko.

if botha hasnt got his heart in it. it will be over quick. if SBW carries him it will be obvious.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:11 PM   #24
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I'd imagine Botha has a pretty decent amount of money. Assuming he doesn't have tons of illegitimate kids, he should be a millionaire or close to it. How much would he need to be paid to completely disgrace himself and take a shit on a great career? $250,00? As Swingin suggested, it's not easy for a South African who lives in the US to be paid $250,000 illegally in Australia and get it back in the country. Not even mentioning the risk of legal woes, including a possible prison stint.

If he wins, he can get a couple more fights as an opponent for legit young guys like Pianeta, and he'll be well paid for those fights as well. Legally and without risk. If he loses, those opportunities probably fade. So factor that in.

This isn't some guy who has a day job mowing lawns.

Why would he show up in decent shape for the fight if he was just planning to take a dive? Is he planning to transition into a career as a swim suit model?

Other than that though, I like the theory.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:18 PM   #25
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Sadly, I think Frans is here for the payday.

He was probably close to retiring after his recent performances and then got the opportunity to fight $BW for good money.

No way would Nasser risk his new cash cow against a legit opponent at this stage of his "career".
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:41 PM   #26
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SBW is no Pianeta.....

SBW wont box like Pianeta, he will stand in front of botha and exchange. either botha stands and trades bombs, or he covers up and gets outa there early by ko.

if botha hasnt got his heart in it. it will be over quick. if SBW carries him it will be obvious.
I hope for those that buy/go to the pub to see it it's legit. SBW went 6 rounds with Scott Lewis outboxing him. That's the only full fight I have seen of his. I think he will do the same with this guy. I dunno I just don't think Khoder will put him in with someone who will beat him jeapordise his Rugby season. JMO.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:45 PM   #27
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SBW is fighting Botha because Botha is done. Look at the photo above, thats why he's fighting him. Botha wont take a dive.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:45 PM   #28
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I'd imagine Botha has a pretty decent amount of money. Assuming he doesn't have tons of illegitimate kids, he should be a millionaire or close to it. How much would he need to be paid to completely disgrace himself and take a shit on a great career? $250,00? As Swingin suggested, it's not easy for a South African who lives in the US to be paid $250,000 illegally in Australia and get it back in the country. Not even mentioning the risk of legal woes, including a possible prison stint.

If he wins, he can get a couple more fights as an opponent for legit young guys like Pianeta, and he'll be well paid for those fights as well. Legally and without risk. If he loses, those opportunities probably fade. So factor that in.

This isn't some guy who has a day job mowing lawns.

Why would he show up in decent shape for the fight if he was just planning to take a dive? Is he planning to transition into a career as a swim suit model?

Other than that though, I like the theory.
He's 44 his recent record is abysmal and still fighting. I doubt he's flush with cash but who knows.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:54 PM   #29
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botha gets free tickets to a roosters game if he throws it?
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:08 PM   #30
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Believe it...

The point is, to keep the cash coming in, SBW isn't ever gonan fight a Klit or the likes
I agree mate. Khoder has paid Botha for a nice holiday. Botha is just looking for cash at this stage of his career.

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