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View Poll Results: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao - do you even care?
Yes. 216 81.51%
No. 17 6.42%
I used to. 32 12.08%
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:36 PM   #45841
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Everyone knows Mayweather's insistence on USADA and his shady relationship with them was a deal breaker...he was insisting on Pacquiao training in the US instead of allowing VADA to administer the tests - look into Floyd's failed tests and USADA's cover-up - why is it that Floyd settled as soon as Pacquiao's lawyers demanded to see all of Floyd's documented drug tests by the USADA - documents were never produced and Floyd settled immediately with his grovelling statement of apology

Wake up and stop being a Floyd nuthugger
First of all, what does Floyd have to do with Pac's unwillingness to take Random blood tests? What was a deal breaker? Do you think that Floyd would pay millions for pac's test to turn out positive for Peds, when Manny can easily get retested by another org? And what the hell are you talking about USADA's cover up. Produce the source or you are full of ****.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:50 PM   #45842
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Prelude, where you at dawg? Gonna own up and apologize for calling me a liar?
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:14 PM   #45843
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IB a G. Deal with it ***gits
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:05 PM   #45844
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I've always questioned Pac's ability to move up weight classes with ease and maintain the punching power.

Doesn't make sense to me, but he's innocent until proven wrong.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:18 AM   #45845
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:42 PM   #45846
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I think he's swallowing his pride to get a fight with Floyd. I won't be surprised if he would agree to even less than 40m flat fee that Floyd once offered him now that JMM had KTFO him.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:59 PM   #45847
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ducking testing to this day

what a shame ... he has all of those tattoos yet is afraid of hypodermic needles??

his entire career is now questionable IMO
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:24 AM   #45848
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First of all, what does Floyd have to do with Pac's unwillingness to take Random blood tests? What was a deal breaker? Do you think that Floyd would pay millions for pac's test to turn out positive for Peds, when Manny can easily get retested by another org? And what the hell are you talking about USADA's cover up. Produce the source or you are full of ****.
Oh please, you are blind. Why is it Floyd settled with Pacquiao as soon as Pacquiao's lawyers requested all of Mayweather's test results from the USADA which have not been made public? Pacquiao's lawyers said they made several requests, never received the documentation and then Mayweather settled and took back his accusations.

USADA actually moved to quash the subpoena so they could withhold those records! Why would they do that? This is factual, not conspiracy! MAke your own minds up but I bet you're one of those who likewise claims Pacquiao is on PEDS because he didn't agree immediately to Mayweather's drug test demands (which he had never made before to anyone else - Pacquiao was the first...why? Because he wanted to defame Pacquiao's achievements when compared to his own)
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:03 AM   #45849
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After all the smoke clears, the fact is Pac refused testing.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:13 AM   #45850
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someone on a good steroid programme can get past those tests anyway. i think pac will have mayweather just didn't want that fight.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:16 AM   #45851
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mayweather is just a master of manipulating n press n some people just wanted to be manipulated by his lies anyway. i still think pac can give mayweather a much harder fight than marquez because he's a lost faster and more aggressive n has that southpaw stance.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:53 AM   #45852
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mayweather is just a master of manipulating n press n some people just wanted to be manipulated by his lies anyway. i still think pac can give mayweather a much harder fight than marquez because he's a lost faster and more aggressive n has that southpaw stance.
I believe you are correct. I do give Pacquiao a good shot at beating Floyd. If Cotto could touch Floyd, so can Pacman. But with more power. I'd still be interested in seeing it, even though it's a few years too late.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:54 AM   #45853
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Pac will never fight Mayweather as long as Arum is promoting him

Pac is Arum's ***** and would rather have him lose to JMM then to fight Floyd
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:05 AM   #45854
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Pac will never fight Mayweather as long as Arum is promoting him

Pac is Arum's ***** and would rather have him lose to JMM then to fight Floyd
The Arum scapegoat line doesn't quite hold true. The problem is Arum won't compromise. He begrudgingly moved away from 50-50 because Pacquiao insisted. Fact is if Mayweather had agreed 50-50 before the Bradley fight after Pacquiao had agreed to all testing the fight would have happened.

Mayweather's ego and fear didn't allow the fight to happen. Let's stop blaming Arum, at 50-50 Arum would make the fight - at 55-45 before Marquez he would have made the fight also...Mayweather simply doesn't want it, Pacquiao's whole style is a huge threat to him
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:08 AM   #45855
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The Arum scapegoat line doesn't quite hold true. The problem is Arum won't compromise. He begrudgingly moved away from 50-50 because Pacquiao insisted. Fact is if Mayweather had agreed 50-50 before the Bradley fight after Pacquiao had agreed to all testing the fight would have happened.

Mayweather's ego and fear didn't allow the fight to happen. Let's stop blaming Arum, at 50-50 Arum would make the fight - at 55-45 before Marquez he would have made the fight also...Mayweather simply doesn't want it, Pacquiao's whole style is a huge threat to him
No, Arum wanted June 9th for Floyd even though he KNEW Floyd was going to prison late May.
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