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Old 02-09-2013, 08:35 AM   #1
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Default Dave Boy Green vs. Ricky Hatton @ Welterweight

Hey, I just watching some footage of Green and got thinking about a Ricky Hatton match-up. Green beat men like Eklund, Hafey, Rhiney, Price, Stracey, Piedvache, etc. Although suffered losses to Palomino, Leonard, etc.

I personally think Green is of a higher quality than Hatton, but how do you all see this fight going? Just a fun match-up that I thought of.

I'd take Green.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:47 AM   #2
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I'd take Hatton to dominate Green in a wide points decision. Green wouldn't have the speed or power to keep Hatton off him. Hatton's speed of footwork to close the gap is very good and at his best he was both very strong and the pace he fought at exceptional
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:50 AM   #3
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I'd take Hatton to dominate Green in a wide points decision. Green wouldn't have the speed or power to keep Hatton off him. Hatton's speed of footwork to close the gap is very good and at his best he was both very strong and the pace he fought at exceptional
Really? I don't know too much about Green, but I figured he'd be good enough to beat Ricky at 147.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:51 AM   #4
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Default Re: Dave Boy Green vs. Ricky Hatton @ Welterweight

I see Hatton as a better fighter, but not at 147, he'd lose his advantage in physical power.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:53 AM   #5
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Default Re: Dave Boy Green vs. Ricky Hatton @ Welterweight

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I'd take Hatton to dominate Green in a wide points decision. Green wouldn't have the speed or power to keep Hatton off him. Hatton's speed of footwork to close the gap is very good and at his best he was both very strong and the pace he fought at exceptional
We're not talking about Hatton at his best, we're talking about Hatton at 147. You know, the guy that was run close by Luis Collazo?

As it stands, haven't seen enough footage of a prime Green to comment, then again I'm sure neither has PowerPuncher.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:02 AM   #6
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We're not talking about Hatton at his best, we're talking about Hatton at 147.
Indeed, this is 147lb Hatton.

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Quality little scrap.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:14 AM   #7
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Default Re: Dave Boy Green vs. Ricky Hatton @ Welterweight

I voiced a similar opinion a while back and got shot down . It has been said that hatton by going up to welterweight he would be giving away a advantage that he may have at light welterweight . I know it's its an unpopular thought but I say no to that he would not as for me green at light welter was physicaly stronger and hit harder than hatton . Just two fights before the Stracey fight dave was winning the vacant European light welterweight tittle so if we take the green of the Stracey fight and make it a 140lb pound fight dave would be able to make that weight so it could be at light welter . Dave could outwork hatton that but for me it would be a 50-50 fight , hatton is overrated by many and many forget that green was a genuine unbeaten light welterweight
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We're not talking about Hatton at his best, we're talking about Hatton at 147. You know, the guy that was run close by Luis Collazo?

As it stands, haven't seen enough footage of a prime Green to comment, then again I'm sure neither has PowerPuncher.
I think he was still at his best at 147 but obviously fighting bigger/better opponents. As a guy coming down from 180 and fighting anywhere over 155 in the ring he was probably less drained at 147

And I've only seen Green in his losses, which does skew it, although I don't think he was that good
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I think he was still at his best at 147 but obviously fighting bigger/better opponents. As a guy coming down from 180 and fighting anywhere over 155 in the ring he was less drained at 147

And I've only seen Green in his losses, which does skew it, although I don't think he was that good
Hatton was the better regarding boxing ability but if hatton meets green and gets into a standing fight which is likely he may well find himself out worked by green .hatton's body punching in this fight could possibly be his saving grace that may wear green down later in the fight but over twelve rounds green has good chance to take a close decision
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:36 AM   #10
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And I've only seen Green in his losses, which does skew it, although I don't think he was that good
Of course it would skew it! How can you make a decision when you've only viewed the man in losing efforts? Watch these;

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Old 02-09-2013, 09:47 AM   #11
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I will go hatton with this one...
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Default Re: Dave Boy Green vs. Ricky Hatton @ Welterweight

Hatton should still be able to pull this one off. His pressure and workrate will still see him off to a solid lead, even if he starts to slow down in the later rounds ala Callozo. I don't think Hatton was ever going to be a great/very good @ 148, but he could have made this weight at nearly anytime in his career....

Once again he is to much for Green and take a solid 8-4 decision or stops him late.
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Hatton should still be able to pull this one off. His pressure and workrate will still see him off to a solid lead, even if he starts to slow down in the later rounds ala Callozo. I don't think Hatton was ever going to be a great/very good @ 148, but he could have made this weight at nearly anytime in his career....

Once again he is to much for Green and take a solid 8-4 decision or stops him late.
Work rate and pressure interesting
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:51 AM   #14
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Hatton was the better regarding boxing ability but if hatton meets green and gets into a standing fight which is likely he may well find himself out worked by green .hatton's body punching in this fight could possibly be his saving grace that may wear green down later in the fight but over twelve rounds green has good chance to take a close decision
Green has the better fundamentals, Hatton the faster footwork and better offensive arsenal, and stronger

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Work rate and pressure interesting
Both have high workrates, I'd say Hatton's workrate has more quality, ie he sits on his shots more often and is always looking to break his opponent down

Also because of his quicker feet and his feints, I'd expect him to get off first and put Green on the backfoot, which would bring Green's output down in itself. This happened a few times when Hatton fought higher output guys

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Of course it would skew it! How can you make a decision when you've only viewed the man in losing efforts? Watch these;

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Thanks for the fights Orriray, I watched the Piedvache fight and I'll watch the rest later

What's hard is comparing the levels, Green fought in the best era and couldn't quite cut it at A Level, but won a European title when European titles meant far more. Hatton fought in a poorer era, was protected early on and avoided allot of contenders until his 3 cash out fights in Tyszu, Mayweather and Pacquaio. His other fights were calculated risks and usually coming off poor performances.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:15 AM   #15
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Default Re: Dave Boy Green vs. Ricky Hatton @ Welterweight

Green for me would probably not be pushed back he was for me any way physicaly stronger than hatton but that is a purely personal opinion .green fought many people with better and quicker footwork than himself but his work rate and determination drove him forward . Hatton and green would meet in the middle and for me it would be hatton that would give a little and perhaps box more as he did at times against tackie , on the inside hatton's advantage maybe his punches are not as wide as green could throw at times but I still see green out working hatton . This would be close fight either way , hatton has his body work and green has his muck spreader
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