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Old 02-10-2013, 07:05 AM   #31
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An excellent performance from him IMO in which he showed a lot. I think he's done remarkably well in his career to date when you consider it's only his 16th fight.

He's progressed at a good rate but there's no need to rush him and put him in big fights yet when he's still not ready. There are plenty of options amongst the contenders who he could take on and learn from rather than rushing to face the winners of fights for vacant belts.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:06 AM   #32
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after 16 fights hes boxing right at his level. theres absolutely no way there should be talk of world titles about now. he needs a good few fights at and around euro title/fringe world level to tighten his game up.

the internet has made everyone way too impatient and its clear that this kids natural talent is there but at world level that isnt enough. its not close to enough. as well as talent you need experience, your flaws ironed out, the perfect support network that can also deal at the top level and impecable management.

i think that people are going to get impatient with this kid but to achieve his potential hes needs to box to his level and learn his game. proska on the undercard is an example of what happens when you dont understand the rules of engagement, almost wasted natural talent without the right people training/managing him.

the quig fight would be a great fight at this point.

great fight though. seems like a top kid as well.
I agree with all of this.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:43 AM   #33
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Very good performance and won pretty much every round. Took a few shots but to criticize him because of that is way too harsh. He avoided most of what was thrown at him, and at this level of course you're gonna take a few. It was only a handful of times that Martinez landed anything eye catching. Impressive performance.
Those commentators only saw one guy fighting. Kiko marches in face first but when he gets hit all we hear is "oh lovely shots from Frampton".
Carl seriously outlanded Marinez but anytime he got tagged it was because Framptons defence needs to tighten up!

A fine and entertaining performance from Frampton. Physically, I think he is very strong at this weight. Stopping Martinez was quite a statement and he ate a few banjos along the way too. When a guy brings pressure like Kiko did, you just cannot expect the other guy to keep on his toes all night.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:08 AM   #34
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Was impressed to an extent. Been harsh on Frampton on other threads but I'll give him his due, that was a beauty of a finish and his power and pure boxing skills look great.
and that is why he has been hyped, you can tell the guy has great talent and ring IQ, remember, 16th fight, some people are getting carried away pushing for a world title fight, the guy is progressing perfectly, but he needs a few more upper echelon fights before we throw him to the wolves just yet, its a stacked division
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:43 AM   #35
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I in minority,had Martinez ahead,thought Carl was being hurt to body throughout.top class guys with better footwork will step in an catch Carl when he steps back,guard down.credit tho,great finish and showed he can keep calm under pressure,really enjoyed it.im pleased for young shane mcquigan also.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:20 PM   #36
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wouldnt be surprised if rendall comes out of retirement for may 11th
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:32 PM   #37
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Kiko might've been a bit fresher than Rendall but Quigg's performance was better. He didnt get caught as much & looked more dynamic when he let his hands go.
Rendall is a completely different proposition to Kiko at this stage in their careers. It's comparing very different things and it's intellectually dishonest to compare the two in this way.

Who's to say Frampton would have been hit if he'd faced Munroe? Who's to say Quigg wouldn't have had problems with Kiko?

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and that is why he has been hyped, you can tell the guy has great talent and ring IQ, remember, 16th fight, some people are getting carried away pushing for a world title fight, the guy is progressing perfectly, but he needs a few more upper echelon fights before we throw him to the wolves just yet, its a stacked division
This is how I saw it. He showed maturity, he took a little time until he realised he could blunt Martinez's power by staying with him on the inside, and he didn't let himself get chased around the ring. He didn't do too much wrong, unless you give Kiko no credit for his own good work.

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Those commentators only saw one guy fighting. Kiko marches in face first but when he gets hit all we hear is "oh lovely shots from Frampton".
Carl seriously outlanded Marinez but anytime he got tagged it was because Framptons defence needs to tighten up!

A fine and entertaining performance from Frampton. Physically, I think he is very strong at this weight. Stopping Martinez was quite a statement and he ate a few banjos along the way too. When a guy brings pressure like Kiko did, you just cannot expect the other guy to keep on his toes all night.
Agree so much that it scares me. Kiko did a good job last night. Focusing on Frampton alone is to ignore that.

I actually thought Frampton showed he was very capable on the inside and outside, and he adapted every time Kiko showed him something new. He dealt with the early aggression by using lateral movement, he started hammering in hard singled when Kiko tried to jab his way in, then when Kiko started trying to rough him up, Carl obliged on the inside in centre-ring. It was a very impressive performance, IMO. The knock-out was an incredibly astute piece of trap-setting - he backed up toward the ropes, Kiko started trying to wail punches in and Frampton timed a shot as he opened up.

Sure, he was a little reckless at times, but that was a great fight both in terms of action and development.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:43 PM   #38
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wouldnt be surprised if rendall comes out of retirement for may 11th
Yep sounds like he's already coming back to fight. Think one last pay day for lad.
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:30 PM   #39
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Can't see Munroe happenig May 11th. Hearn/McGuigan clearly want and eliminator for the IBF or WBC.

Thers rumours that Hatton fighters will feature on Matchroom bills in the near future. How about Frampton & Quigg on the same card.

Scott Quigg vs Willie Casey for the WBA Interim. Frampton in a world title eliminator. Add Jamie Conlon vs Paul Butler for the British & Commonwealth Super Flyweight, and O'Kane vs Fitzgerald for the Irish Middleweight title. Thats a solid 3/4 fight Sky card. Reckon it would do well in ticket sales at the 02 Arena in Dublin. Might not sell out but close to the 14,000 capacity. Exposes Frampton to the Irish audience and builds Quiggs profile for a future showdown.
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:35 PM   #40
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Quigg and Frampton on same card makes great sense and sets up a summer clash nicely. I'd prefer if Munroe is kept out of it now he doesn't beat either man IMHO. This is strictly a date for two..
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:07 PM   #41
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So, what do we think of Frampton's win?

Let's not get carried away.
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