Lee vs Murray?

Nipple · 02-10-2013, 08:00 AM

Who would you pick to win and how?

This would be a great scrap, IMO.

deebest · 02-10-2013, 08:02 AM

Murray late stoppage.

servo · 02-10-2013, 11:21 AM

I think Murray stops him. Lee has been overrated by many in my opinion. He did well early against JCC, but that is all I can really give him props for. He seriously struggled in parts with Fitzgerald last night (I had a it a little closer than 98-94) and doesn't like the pressure being taken to him. I think Murray would stalk him, pick his shots and wear him down.

Although Lee was landing them quite well last night, some of his uppercuts were looking seriously laboured and a more talented defensive fighter could see them coming in my opinion.

SkillspayBills · 02-10-2013, 11:27 AM

Murray wins IMO. Late stoppage. Lee needs to stand ground and fight centre ring instead of backing up so much. I think Murray puts it on him and Lee gasses and falls apart late.

Marlow · 02-10-2013, 11:35 AM

Never rated Lee, last night did nothing to alter my opinion of him.

Think Murray, Macklin and Barker all beat him.

alba · 02-10-2013, 11:37 AM

Martin Murray

wallworkjake123 · 02-10-2013, 01:24 PM

I don't think we saw the BEST version of Andy Lee last night, you have to ask yourself, was that the same Andy Lee who beat Brian Vera and gave Julio Cesar Chavez Jr problems in the first half of there fight last year??

If prime Lee turns up I think he'll win a close and competitive decision, if last nights Andy Lee turns up I expect him to get beat late on.

pikecubic · 02-10-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wallworkjake123

I don't think we saw the BEST version of Andy Lee last night, you have to ask yourself, was that the same Andy Lee who beat Brian Vera and gave Julio Cesar Chavez Jr problems in the first half of there fight last year??

If prime Lee turns up I think he'll win a close and competitive decision, if last nights Andy Lee turns up I expect him to get beat late on.

Good point, he has been out the ring for nearly seven months in which quite a lot has happened to him. He did look pretty average last night but I think he probably underestimated the other fella and struggled to get through the gears. With that being said, I would probably still fancy Murray to nick a close one.

wallworkjake123 · 02-10-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pikecubic

Good point, he has been out the ring for nearly seven months in which quite a lot has happened to him. He did look pretty average last night but I think he probably underestimated the other fella and struggled to get through the gears. With that being said, I would probably still fancy Murray to nick a close one.

Ye I must admit Murray will give him big problems at the very least. MM's feet are too slow to truly trouble Martinez though IMO.

thewinfella · 02-10-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wallworkjake123

I don't think we saw the BEST version of Andy Lee last night, you have to ask yourself, was that the same Andy Lee who beat Brian Vera and gave Julio Cesar Chavez Jr problems in the first half of there fight last year??

If prime Lee turns up I think he'll win a close and competitive decision, if last nights Andy Lee turns up I expect him to get beat late on.

I dont ever remember Chavez Jr having a single problem with Andy Lee?

In-fact Ive never seen so much blatant disregard for a fighters punching ability. Jr literally "walked through him" and I mean literally!

Lee's a very good 1-2 fighter, outisde of his straight punching ability I'm not sure there's a great deal to get overly excited about, he is well conditioned, hard working, and dedicated, probably why he's a ranked fighter! I think thats where it ends unfortunately

Edit: I actually think he'd make a very good fight with Murray

wallworkjake123 · 02-10-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thewinfella

I dont ever remember Chavez Jr having a single problem with Andy Lee?

In-fact Ive never seen so much blatant disregard for a fighters punching ability. Jr literally "walked through him" and I mean literally!

Lee's a very good 1-2 fighter, outisde of his straight punching ability I'm not sure there's a great deal to get overly excited about, he is well conditioned, hard working, and dedicated, probably why he's a ranked fighter! I think thats where it ends unfortunately

Edit: I actually think he'd make a very good fight with Murray

He was up on all three judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage, against Chavez Jr in Texas, that ain't easy. But you could tell he was getting worn down.

Murray won't be able to walk through Lee like Chavez Jr did. I recall Sturm stunning Murray and Sturm IMO has average punching power.

Jonsey · 02-10-2013, 07:12 PM

based on what we saw last night all 3 brits stop him.

TFFP · 02-10-2013, 07:22 PM

Made me laugh how the commentators kept referring to him as 'World Class'

Just because he fought in America he's world class? Not a chance.

I think Murray beats him easily enough. Too strong for him, Lee is fragile.

Jonsey · 02-10-2013, 07:26 PM

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Made me laugh how the commentators kept referring to him as 'World Class'

Just because he fought in America he's world class? Not a chance.

I think Murray beats him easily enough. Too strong for him, Lee is fragile.

I saw Andy Lee when I was on the tube in london a few months back. he had a t shirt on and his arms and legs were so skinny.

True_Hero · 02-10-2013, 08:10 PM

Murray beats him easily

Lee isn't that good. All three of the Brits would beat him.

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servo England. ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lancashire Posts: 977 vCash: 75	Re: Lee vs Murray? I think Murray stops him. Lee has been overrated by many in my opinion. He did well early against JCC, but that is all I can really give him props for. He seriously struggled in parts with Fitzgerald last night (I had a it a little closer than 98-94) and doesn't like the pressure being taken to him. I think Murray would stalk him, pick his shots and wear him down. Although Lee was landing them quite well last night, some of his uppercuts were looking seriously laboured and a more talented defensive fighter could see them coming in my opinion.
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SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 12,997 vCash: 500	Re: Lee vs Murray? Murray wins IMO. Late stoppage. Lee needs to stand ground and fight centre ring instead of backing up so much. I think Murray puts it on him and Lee gasses and falls apart late.
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wallworkjake123 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,516 vCash: 500	Re: Lee vs Murray? I don't think we saw the BEST version of Andy Lee last night, you have to ask yourself, was that the same Andy Lee who beat Brian Vera and gave Julio Cesar Chavez Jr problems in the first half of there fight last year?? If prime Lee turns up I think he'll win a close and competitive decision, if last nights Andy Lee turns up I expect him to get beat late on.
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Jonsey Champion East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 5,953 vCash: 500	Re: Lee vs Murray? based on what we saw last night all 3 brits stop him.
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True_Hero Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 311 vCash: 500	Re: Lee vs Murray? Murray beats him easily Lee isn't that good. All three of the Brits would beat him.
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