unusual feint by Rigondeaux

shs101 · 02-12-2013, 08:28 PM

If anyone is a fan of guillermo rigondeaux then you should have noticed this before because he does this in all of his fights and I really dont know why? Some commentators even commented on this but no real insight on it. Its not like a typical feint, he throws a half way punch of some sort (a lot with his straight left) almost in slow motion/half speed...sometimes he comes off with something right after and sometimes not.
A perfect quick example would be right here at around 3:15
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Would this be good to start doing? What are the pros and cons of this? As myself a southpaw, I have a few fights (no begginer) I was looking to add this to my game but first I need to know why he does this

Thats just a quick example but if you watch any of his recent fights he does this thru out the bout

AZ_40 · 02-12-2013, 09:05 PM

Noticed it but idk...rigo is a g tho

dealt_with · 02-12-2013, 11:15 PM

Cuban fighters do it a lot. When an opponent is hesitant to throw, those punches are put out to get the opponent to throw something. So then there is something to counter. It's also used to measure distance and aides with timing.
You want to be careful with it if you're not a quick, reflex sort of fighter.

milkman11 · 02-12-2013, 11:45 PM

That's his way of feinting. It's like he throws out a half ass measuring stick or lazy jab and left to lure his opponent to bite the bait and then he counters him with a left hand or a real speed one-two. Max Kellerman even said it looks like Rigondeaux is rehearsing his punches during Rigondeaux-Kennedy (I think that's when he said it).

StillWill · 02-13-2013, 12:00 AM

He is setting a trap. Looking to make the other guy react to it, and then counter.

Celtic Warrior · 02-13-2013, 03:26 AM

Carl Frampton does it quite a bit as well.

As other posters have said its good for measuring distance and drawing leads from opponents - just stay switched on.

MattMattMatt · 02-13-2013, 03:27 AM

Without watching the video I would assume it is similar in purpose to the weak jab that Floyd sometimes leads with to get the opponent to react (they often try and counter that jab) but Floyd then performs a pull-counter and lands a real solid jab on an opponent coming forward. I'm sure other fighters do it too, but this was the example that came to mind.

StillWill · 02-13-2013, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by StillWill

He is setting a trap. Looking to make the other guy react to it, and then counter.

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Son of Gaul · 02-13-2013, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dealt_with

Cuban fighters do it a lot. When an opponent is hesitant to throw, those punches are put out to get the opponent to throw something. So then there is something to counter. It's also used to measure distance and aides with timing.
You want to be careful with it if you're not a quick, reflex sort of fighter.

123ko · 02-13-2013, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by StillWill

He is setting a trap. Looking to make the other guy react to it, and then counter.

YEP (He is setting a trap) well said ,,its all about the counter shot

Boxmaster · 02-13-2013, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shs101

If anyone is a fan of guillermo rigondeaux then you should have noticed this before because he does this in all of his fights and I really dont know why? Some commentators even commented on this but no real insight on it. Its not like a typical feint, he throws a half way punch of some sort (a lot with his straight left) almost in slow motion/half speed...sometimes he comes off with something right after and sometimes not.
A perfect quick example would be right here at around 3:15
[URL]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=yeaVS6yR7XA[/URL]
Would this be good to start doing? What are the pros and cons of this? As myself a southpaw, I have a few fights (no begginer) I was looking to add this to my game but first I need to know why he does this

Thats just a quick example but if you watch any of his recent fights he does this thru out the bout

He's done it since the amateurs. Whatever it is, it seems to throw people off because they can't see his punches.

Boxmaster · 02-13-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AZ_40

Noticed it but idk...rigo is a g tho

If you try to time him as a counter puncher when he throws those feints he can counter your counter. Roy Jones used to do stuff like that too, sticking his hands out.

Taylor2010 · 02-13-2013, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by StillWill

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Note elbow after the punch. Dirty tactics blessed by Jesus.

greynotsoold · 02-13-2013, 09:44 AM

With any feint, watch what the opponent does immediately after. Or get in the mirror and feint yourself, see what your reaction would be to the feint. That's how you learn what reaction to expect when you do it to somebody else.

123ko · 02-13-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by greynotsoold

get in the mirror and feint yourself, see what your reaction would be to the feint. That's how you learn what reaction to expect when you do it to somebody else.

ha ha in the mirror ,,,a feint only works when its not expected ,then you get a reaction ,,you can't feint yourself in the mirror,,thats funny

your probably on about the counter but the man in the mirror don't wonner fight back

02-12-2013, 08:28 PM	#1
shs101 newbie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 34 vCash: 500	unusual feint by Rigondeaux If anyone is a fan of guillermo rigondeaux then you should have noticed this before because he does this in all of his fights and I really dont know why? Some commentators even commented on this but no real insight on it. Its not like a typical feint, he throws a half way punch of some sort (a lot with his straight left) almost in slow motion/half speed...sometimes he comes off with something right after and sometimes not. A perfect quick example would be right here at around 3:15 [URL]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=yeaVS6yR7XA[/URL] Would this be good to start doing? What are the pros and cons of this? As myself a southpaw, I have a few fights (no begginer) I was looking to add this to my game but first I need to know why he does this Thats just a quick example but if you watch any of his recent fights he does this thru out the bout
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02-12-2013, 09:05 PM	#2
AZ_40 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Maryvale Posts: 504 vCash: 500	Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux Noticed it but idk...rigo is a g tho
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02-12-2013, 11:15 PM	#3
dealt_with Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,446 vCash: 500	Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux Cuban fighters do it a lot. When an opponent is hesitant to throw, those punches are put out to get the opponent to throw something. So then there is something to counter. It's also used to measure distance and aides with timing. You want to be careful with it if you're not a quick, reflex sort of fighter.
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02-12-2013, 11:45 PM	#4
milkman11 Boxing Junkie ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 840 vCash: 1000	Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux That's his way of feinting. It's like he throws out a half ass measuring stick or lazy jab and left to lure his opponent to bite the bait and then he counters him with a left hand or a real speed one-two. Max Kellerman even said it looks like Rigondeaux is rehearsing his punches during Rigondeaux-Kennedy (I think that's when he said it).
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02-13-2013, 12:00 AM	#5
StillWill Dr. Eisenfaust ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Oakland, California Posts: 1,518 vCash: 174	Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux He is setting a trap. Looking to make the other guy react to it, and then counter.
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02-13-2013, 03:26 AM	#6
Celtic Warrior Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 192 vCash: 1050	Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux Carl Frampton does it quite a bit as well. As other posters have said its good for measuring distance and drawing leads from opponents - just stay switched on.
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02-13-2013, 03:27 AM	#7
MattMattMatt Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,714 vCash: 75	Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux Without watching the video I would assume it is similar in purpose to the weak jab that Floyd sometimes leads with to get the opponent to react (they often try and counter that jab) but Floyd then performs a pull-counter and lands a real solid jab on an opponent coming forward. I'm sure other fighters do it too, but this was the example that came to mind.
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02-13-2013, 09:44 AM	#14
greynotsoold Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 762 vCash: 500	Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux With any feint, watch what the opponent does immediately after. Or get in the mirror and feint yourself, see what your reaction would be to the feint. That's how you learn what reaction to expect when you do it to somebody else.
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