How does Burns/Broner go now then? - Page 2

Jakemilo · 02-17-2013, 09:14 AM

Demanding vada testing would be a start just to be safe like

Jonny5-9 · 02-17-2013, 09:14 AM

Will be very surprised if Burns ever faces Broner. If he beats Vasquez there will be the call from Burn's team that he has more belts and therefore Broner should come to Scotland. Obviously that wont happen as the money is the States.

Burns will probably just defend his belts against domestic level opponents at home in front of packed out arenas and do very nicely from it.

sharpy · 02-17-2013, 09:15 AM

Broner never got going last night when he put 4 or 5 shots together he nearly had Rees finished every time when he wants to turn it on he can really hurt you it's like he's toying with his opponent burns wouldn't stand a chance

PaulieMc · 02-17-2013, 09:19 AM

Before this fight I thought Burns. Now I think Broner, convincingly. Burns is taller and and better than Rees but he's no way near as awkward. If Rees couldn't avoid them then Ricky won't be able too either. Broner's uppercuts and hooks were a thing of beauty, so fucking crisp and powerful. I'm not deliberately sucking his dick, everyone should know I've been critical of him before and backed Rees to win last night.

Can't deny it anymore though, Broner is something special. Ricky is a class fighter who always steps up but it would be a challenge too far for him to beat Broner, AB is just too skilled.

True_Hero · 02-17-2013, 09:23 AM

I think it would go the distance... end result depending where it is.

Burns wouldn't stand the chance of getting a points division in the states with biased judges pandering to the Americans. In Scotland or, a neutral venue then Burns might edge it.

craney91 · 02-17-2013, 09:27 AM

He sets opponents up, and Ricky Burns will be no different. If you fall for the traps, leave gaps, he will make you pay. One thing that impressed me yesterday were some of those combinations when he backed Rees up against the ropes. Flashy, but they are absolutely devastating at this weight. Body, Head. Broner makes use of everything. He also has the ability to use the early round spidey-sense, and to come out and adjust perfectly to win the fight. He could see Rees lunging in and jumping in, and then bending over. So what did Broner do? Timed the uppercut when he was low enough, timed a dig to the body when he was bending over and wide open.

Its just boxing common sense, these fighters make it look oh so simple.

fatcity · 02-17-2013, 09:42 AM

No way Burns fights Broner.He probably won't even holiday in the States,knowing he could bump into Broner on the street.Broner is Burns biggest nightmare.

craney91 · 02-17-2013, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fatcity

No way Burns fights Broner.He probably won't even holiday in the States,knowing he could bump into Broner on the street.Broner is Burns biggest nightmare.

I fear the same to be honest. I predicted predictably that if Burns beats Vazquez, team Burns will whip out the 2 belt card....and we will be even further from that fight. I defended Ricky from the people who claimed he was ducking, but I think they might have a point now. I don't know whether it is Ricky doing it, or his management. But there is some obvious reluctance in not taking this fight, for whatever reason. To many things have been said in the lead up to last nights fight that make me think they dont want it, Jim Lampley claimed Burns camp priced themselves out last night. Ricky's explanation was that "5 weeks wasn't enough". Adrien Broner claimed Ricky Burns "ran away again".....

There is to much crap around this fight that I dont think its gonna happen. If it was, it would be nice and smooth, but its not. There is friction.

billy nelson · 02-17-2013, 10:19 AM

Broner thinks Ricky bitten off more than he can chew coz he knows Ricky is the No1 and he will get his ass handed to him,very disrespectful man who many have little to no time for!
I'm sure I seen his dad in the nutty professor lol

REEVO · 02-17-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by billy nelson

Broner thinks Ricky bitten off more than he can chew coz he knows Ricky is the No1 and he will get his ass handed to him,very disrespectful man who many have little to no time for!
I'm sure I seen his dad in the nutty professor lol

Billy as much as i think Burns is a talented kid i just dont see how he lives with Broner in there. Im not talking about technical skill, look at at the size of Broner he makes his opponents look like two weight divisons down from him. I think Broner is a beast for the weight and cant get my head round how he makes the weight and also his punchs are fierce...
I would like Ricky to kick shit out of Broner and shut his face up but he is a beast at the weight, i think if Ricky had abit more pop he might put Broner in his shell.

SugarRay1985 · 02-17-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by billy nelson

Broner thinks Ricky bitten off more than he can chew coz he knows Ricky is the No1 and he will get his ass handed to him,very disrespectful man who many have little to no time for!
I'm sure I seen his dad in the nutty professor lol

Keep Burns well away from Broner,unless hes after a payday,Broner looks the biz,also looked big at the weight.

outthebox · 02-17-2013, 10:51 AM

Broner is world class and some things and average at others.

I don't think you need huge pop to beat broner. His work rate and footwork are not great. Burns is capable of outworking this guy to a decision. Rees' first 2 rounds gave an insight into how this is done, draw a lead, get in and out before he counters. Need to move the guy around laterally. I see Burns able to pull this off, he has the engine and seems to think through fights. Think Rees started well and reverted to type which suited AB.

Easier said than done though and I'd still have Broner as fav. We also haven't seen the best of him yet which may have a part to play.

REEVO · 02-17-2013, 10:54 AM

In reality Billy Nelson will be sat at home after watching that fight and thinking.. " How the fuck does he make weight" and "How the fuck do we keep Burns running away from him all night"....

satan80 · 02-17-2013, 10:58 AM

Think people are going way overboard on Broner here. He's big at the weight but Burns is no midget - tall, massive shoulders, long armed, he's clearly a physically strong guy who would not be pushed around on the inside.
Obviously Broner puts his shots together well when he's teeing off, but he's never faced a guy who will ram a jab and right hand down his pipe like Burns can from the outside, I've spoke to a few who've sparred Ricky and they all say he can really crack, his ko record is vastly misleading.
Broner gets comfortable quickly in fights and which allows him to mentally stay real calm, especially on the inside where he can begin to pick his shots and bully opponents who he knows can't hurt him, I honestly don't think he could do that to Burns - Rees let his hands go on the inside and clipped Broner who really hasn't mastered that Philly shell like Floyd or a master like Toney - if he stood there trying that shit with Burns he'd be getting lashed by a very good body puncher who would make him think twice and take him out of his comfort zone big time.
Burns has really started to find his range quickly with his right hand in his last few fights, I think he tags Broner early with it and takes some of his confidence away, by mid rounds it's a proper live fight, if Broner can match the fitness, work rate and strength of Burns, whilst showing a defence that he's never shown before, then I'll be impressed, but I think Ricky drags him into deep water late on and gives the cocky little fucker a hiding he'll never forget

TED 822 · 02-17-2013, 11:11 AM

I would be screaming for Ricky,Amir Khan or Kell Brook to beat Broner,but fear he beats them all.

02-17-2013, 09:14 AM	#16
Jakemilo Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 110 vCash: 500	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? Demanding vada testing would be a start just to be safe like
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Jonny5-9 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 275 vCash: 500	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? Will be very surprised if Burns ever faces Broner. If he beats Vasquez there will be the call from Burn's team that he has more belts and therefore Broner should come to Scotland. Obviously that wont happen as the money is the States. Burns will probably just defend his belts against domestic level opponents at home in front of packed out arenas and do very nicely from it.
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02-17-2013, 09:15 AM	#18
sharpy Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 167 vCash: 1000	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? Broner never got going last night when he put 4 or 5 shots together he nearly had Rees finished every time when he wants to turn it on he can really hurt you it's like he's toying with his opponent burns wouldn't stand a chance
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02-17-2013, 09:19 AM	#19
PaulieMc Vae Victis ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,018 vCash: 416	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? Before this fight I thought Burns. Now I think Broner, convincingly. Burns is taller and and better than Rees but he's no way near as awkward. If Rees couldn't avoid them then Ricky won't be able too either. Broner's uppercuts and hooks were a thing of beauty, so fucking crisp and powerful. I'm not deliberately sucking his dick, everyone should know I've been critical of him before and backed Rees to win last night. Can't deny it anymore though, Broner is something special. Ricky is a class fighter who always steps up but it would be a challenge too far for him to beat Broner, AB is just too skilled.
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02-17-2013, 09:23 AM	#20
True_Hero Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 311 vCash: 500	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? I think it would go the distance... end result depending where it is. Burns wouldn't stand the chance of getting a points division in the states with biased judges pandering to the Americans. In Scotland or, a neutral venue then Burns might edge it.
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02-17-2013, 09:27 AM	#21
craney91 Fairytale of Park Royal ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,385 vCash: 500	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? He sets opponents up, and Ricky Burns will be no different. If you fall for the traps, leave gaps, he will make you pay. One thing that impressed me yesterday were some of those combinations when he backed Rees up against the ropes. Flashy, but they are absolutely devastating at this weight. Body, Head. Broner makes use of everything. He also has the ability to use the early round spidey-sense, and to come out and adjust perfectly to win the fight. He could see Rees lunging in and jumping in, and then bending over. So what did Broner do? Timed the uppercut when he was low enough, timed a dig to the body when he was bending over and wide open. Its just boxing common sense, these fighters make it look oh so simple.
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02-17-2013, 09:42 AM	#22
fatcity P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Battery Park Posts: 15,213 vCash: 1080	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? No way Burns fights Broner.He probably won't even holiday in the States,knowing he could bump into Broner on the street.Broner is Burns biggest nightmare.
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02-17-2013, 10:19 AM	#24
billy nelson the fighting scots gym ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,965 vCash: 1000	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? Broner thinks Ricky bitten off more than he can chew coz he knows Ricky is the No1 and he will get his ass handed to him,very disrespectful man who many have little to no time for! I'm sure I seen his dad in the nutty professor lol
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02-17-2013, 10:51 AM	#27
outthebox Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 132 vCash: 1000	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? Broner is world class and some things and average at others. I don't think you need huge pop to beat broner. His work rate and footwork are not great. Burns is capable of outworking this guy to a decision. Rees' first 2 rounds gave an insight into how this is done, draw a lead, get in and out before he counters. Need to move the guy around laterally. I see Burns able to pull this off, he has the engine and seems to think through fights. Think Rees started well and reverted to type which suited AB. Easier said than done though and I'd still have Broner as fav. We also haven't seen the best of him yet which may have a part to play.
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02-17-2013, 10:54 AM	#28
REEVO Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,017 vCash: 1000	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? In reality Billy Nelson will be sat at home after watching that fight and thinking.. " How the fuck does he make weight" and "How the fuck do we keep Burns running away from him all night"....
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02-17-2013, 10:58 AM	#29
satan80 newbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 42 vCash: 500	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? Think people are going way overboard on Broner here. He's big at the weight but Burns is no midget - tall, massive shoulders, long armed, he's clearly a physically strong guy who would not be pushed around on the inside. Obviously Broner puts his shots together well when he's teeing off, but he's never faced a guy who will ram a jab and right hand down his pipe like Burns can from the outside, I've spoke to a few who've sparred Ricky and they all say he can really crack, his ko record is vastly misleading. Broner gets comfortable quickly in fights and which allows him to mentally stay real calm, especially on the inside where he can begin to pick his shots and bully opponents who he knows can't hurt him, I honestly don't think he could do that to Burns - Rees let his hands go on the inside and clipped Broner who really hasn't mastered that Philly shell like Floyd or a master like Toney - if he stood there trying that shit with Burns he'd be getting lashed by a very good body puncher who would make him think twice and take him out of his comfort zone big time. Burns has really started to find his range quickly with his right hand in his last few fights, I think he tags Broner early with it and takes some of his confidence away, by mid rounds it's a proper live fight, if Broner can match the fitness, work rate and strength of Burns, whilst showing a defence that he's never shown before, then I'll be impressed, but I think Ricky drags him into deep water late on and gives the cocky little fucker a hiding he'll never forget
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02-17-2013, 11:11 AM	#30
TED 822 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 966 vCash: 500	Re: How does Burns/Broner go now then? I would be screaming for Ricky,Amir Khan or Kell Brook to beat Broner,but fear he beats them all.
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