If Ricky Burns beat Miguel Vasquez and Adrien Broner...

wallworkjake123 · 02-17-2013, 02:01 PM

... if Burns won two unification bouts in a row against Vasquez and Broner (won fairly on points), would he be one of the top ten best British boxers of all time??

And would you put him in today's P4P list if he beat both?

knighty · 02-17-2013, 02:06 PM

No and yes.

wallworkjake123 · 02-17-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by knighty

No and yes.

No to top ten Brit of all time and yes to top ten p4p today??

Nipple · 02-17-2013, 02:26 PM

He'd be ahead of Ali.

- Billy Nelson.

billy nelson · 02-17-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nipple

He'd be ahead of Ali.

- Billy Nelson.

Cheeky!

JIM KELLY · 02-17-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nipple

He'd be ahead of Laila Ali.

- Billy Nelson.

Gullet · 02-17-2013, 03:04 PM

Needs more than those two to be top ten of all time, defo yes to p4p. Where would he go after those two victorys though?

smegmaa · 02-17-2013, 03:07 PM

Yes, depending on others but at this time would be 9/10

knockout artist · 02-17-2013, 03:11 PM

P4P lists are a complete waste of time, who gives a fuck?

cutthroat22 · 02-17-2013, 03:11 PM

How likely is the broner fight billy?

True_Hero · 02-17-2013, 03:20 PM

All time - No, not yet

P4P List - Yup

El Greeno · 02-17-2013, 03:28 PM

He should def be on any p4p list if he wins against both. It would be incredible if he did, thinking where he has come from and the stick he has received (especially on here) over the years. Hopefully his handlers let him do the Broner fight.

craney91 · 02-17-2013, 03:39 PM

He will not be getting past Miguel Vazquez nevermind Adrien Broner.

Unless of course Billy Nelson masters up some master strategy to somehow beat Vazquez.

Vazquez is vastly underrated and an elite operator, just look at the blokes resume, he has fought some of the best. Canelo, Tim Bradley, he has lost 3 times on points, twice to Canelo and once to Bradley. Ricky Burns aint even in that class, and he certainly aint fought anyone of the calibre of Miguel Vazquez or the fighters he has faced.

Vazquez is on a 12 fight win streak. Never been stopped. His last loss came to Canelo in 2008, where he lost a 10 round UD. He lost a 10 round UD against Bradley in 2007 and lost his first fight as a pro against Canelo in a 4 round SD.

DO NOT underestimate Vazquez. He is a very very very very good boxer.

This is just another Kell Brook vs. Devon Alexander.

Vazquez WILL win
Alexander WILL win

Your playing with the big boys now guys......mind the gap.

It's FUCKING HUGE!

wallworkjake123 · 02-17-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by craney91

He will not be getting past Miguel Vazquez nevermind Adrien Broner.

Unless of course Billy Nelson masters up some master strategy to somehow beat Vazquez.

Vazquez is vastly underrated and an elite operator, just look at the blokes resume, he has fought some of the best. Canelo, Tim Bradley, he has lost 3 times on points, twice to Canelo and once to Bradley. Ricky Burns aint even in that class, and he certainly aint fought anyone of the calibre of Miguel Vazquez or the fighters he has faced.

Vazquez is on a 12 fight win streak. Never been stopped. His last loss came to Canelo in 2008, where he lost a 10 round UD. He lost a 10 round UD against Bradley in 2007 and lost his first fight as a pro against Canelo in a 4 round SD.

DO NOT underestimate Vazquez. He is a very very very very good boxer.

This is just another Kell Brook vs. Devon Alexander.

Vazquez WILL win
Alexander WILL win

Your playing with the big boys now guys......mind the gap.

It's FUCKING HUGE!

That's why I said "if"...

lirva · 02-17-2013, 03:48 PM

he is terrified of broner in my opinion and thats why he wasn't in the ring last night

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craney91 Fairytale of Park Royal ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,510 vCash: 500	Re: If Ricky Burns beat Miguel Vasquez and Adrien Broner... He will not be getting past Miguel Vazquez nevermind Adrien Broner. Unless of course Billy Nelson masters up some master strategy to somehow beat Vazquez. Vazquez is vastly underrated and an elite operator, just look at the blokes resume, he has fought some of the best. Canelo, Tim Bradley, he has lost 3 times on points, twice to Canelo and once to Bradley. Ricky Burns aint even in that class, and he certainly aint fought anyone of the calibre of Miguel Vazquez or the fighters he has faced. Vazquez is on a 12 fight win streak. Never been stopped. His last loss came to Canelo in 2008, where he lost a 10 round UD. He lost a 10 round UD against Bradley in 2007 and lost his first fight as a pro against Canelo in a 4 round SD. DO NOT underestimate Vazquez. He is a very very very very good boxer. This is just another Kell Brook vs. Devon Alexander. Vazquez WILL win Alexander WILL win Your playing with the big boys now guys......mind the gap. It's FUCKING HUGE!
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