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Old 02-23-2013, 02:08 AM   #3571
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Lennox Lewis is an absolute killer. He's good, he's long, he's strong, he hits hard, and he'll get in your shit and dig through to daylight. Poised, athletic, and confident. He punched in combination, worked off an effective jab, and he was so sneaky with his uppercuts. It was just hard to keep him off you, or off balance. I'd have to say Lennox was the best. He took me places nobody else ever has, and he's the puzzle I could never solve all that well. He could be countered...And my left hook was always effective for that. But the more I looked for it, the more rights over the top came back. Hell.

George was slow. He was strong as a mule, he hit hard, amazing jab, but he had one gear. Damn near impossible to back up, but he'd follow you. That was the ticket to beating him; Get off target, move, and box.

Wlad hits so hard. Amazing jab. Great boxer. But he doesn't work on the inside, he holds, and he rarely hammers the body. More infuriating to fight then flat out difficult, and I think that is sorta the trap he springs; He could knock out anything human with that right hand, and the left hook isn't fun either. He also hangs on the back of your head with his left hand when you get low...He can straight up throw you with one hand. Maddening.
I've seen videos of Lewis and Wlad sparring and both of them seem to mix in keeping it somewhat civil but also choosing spots to really hammer who they're in with.

In the 70s, Foreman used to brutalize his sparring partners. Did he maintain that in the 90s or did he actually work with them?
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:13 AM   #3572
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I've seen videos of Lewis and Wlad sparring and both of them seem to mix in keeping it somewhat civil but also choosing spots to really hammer who they're in with.

In the 70s, Foreman used to brutalize his sparring partners. Did he maintain that in the 90s or did he actually work with them?
None of them are fun, there is pain involved in each. George fights. He pushes a strong pace, fight and sparring. He's always working, throwing, doing something, and I didn't ever get the sense in training that he was ever pulling punches.

BUT I was also young, and intimidated. With age and experience I'm sure it'd have felt different.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:20 AM   #3573
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None of them are fun, there is pain involved in each. George fights. He pushes a strong pace, fight and sparring. He's always working, throwing, doing something, and I didn't ever get the sense in training that he was ever pulling punches.

BUT I was also young, and intimidated. With age and experience I'm sure it'd have felt different.
This is a dumb and insignificant question, but I'll waste your time while you wait.

Who was the loudest when punching that you've experienced? I always found it a bit odd that some fighters are relatively quiet when punching, yet others sound like they're being stabbed whenever they throw a punch.

I know that from the time I spent around Holmes in the gym that whenever he'd hit the heavybag, every punch had a loud grunt to go along with it. The grunts were just as loud as the big thuds that resounded off of the bag when he'd hit it.

I know Frazier used to also give out loud grunts as he dug into his oponents.

I always figured Foreman would be similar to Frazier and Holmes with giving a loud grunt with every shot.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:24 AM   #3574
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This is a dumb and insignificant question, but I'll waste your time while you wait.

Who was the loudest when punching that you've experienced? I always found it a bit odd that some fighters are relatively quiet when punching, yet others sound like they're being stabbed whenever they throw a punch.

I know that from the time I spent around Holmes in the gym that whenever he'd hit the heavybag, every punch had a loud grunt to go along with it. The grunts were just as loud as the big thuds that resounded off of the bag when he'd hit it.

I know Frazier used to also give out loud grunts as he dug into his oponents.

I always figured Foreman would be similar to Frazier and Holmes with giving a loud grunt with every shot.
George didn't grunt much, but he had a super loud exhalation. Almost like a whistle. Rewatch, and listen, to the Cooney knockout. PSSSSSH! PSSSSSSH! Real, real loud.

Lennox was quiet as hell. Wlad is a robot, his heart rate doesn't even spike.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:47 AM   #3575
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who is in your avatar pic Magna?
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:04 AM   #3576
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Magna, if you could transport yourself into any era which would it be and why?
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:06 AM   #3577
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Just a brief question about mit work (highly subjective)....

When you hit the mits do you throw your punches as if you were fighting someone, or do you basically just tap the mit and work on throwing quick, light combinations on them?

I personally throw in between. Not as hard as I can, but I'm not just tapping it either.

This question arises from watching Hopkins doing mit work in preparation for his fight with Cloud in a few weeks.

BORKED

Do you prefer to do it similarly or different than Hopkins? I personally do it different, but have done various things within the same workout ranging from mimicking a fight to doing a Mayweather-type routine.

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Also, in sparring, how hard do you/did you usually go? Meaning, do you take it like Hagler and Frazier did and treat it as an actual fight, or did you prefer to do more what guys like Mosley and Ali did and just basically focus on working out your own weaknesses without trying to rip the sparring partner's head off?

Again, personally, I usually prefered somewhat lighter sparring although it actually gave my sparring partner the advantage because one of my better aspects of a fighter was my power, which became non relevant in light sparring. This doesn't mean I was a push over in sparring, there were many times where I ended up in what started out as light sparring but turned into a full fledged fight minus the judges at the end giving an official victory to someone.

I found gym wars more satisfying at the end than regular sparring (if I came out getting the better of it) but found regular sparring more beneficial to my skills.
It depends what you're working on, you can be working on speed, defence, mimicking boxing rounds or working on power.

What Hopkins is working on is mimicking a round, he's moving and hitting the pad when it comes up. It looks really slow though because as soon as the pad is presented you're meant to fire on it, Hopkins pauses a little, maybe because of pacing himself due to a lack of fitness or slower reactions or maybe he's just warming on up.

BTW even Mayweather uses the pads for power and combination work sometimes, the routine he generally does is to work on defensive reactions and speed
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:09 AM   #3578
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Never seen Pitch Black.

Which is funny cause I'm a huge fan of the Fast and Furious series.

Popping in the DVD right now...
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:17 AM   #3579
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All right, let's get to the serious shit now............

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Never seen Pitch Black.

Which is funny cause I'm a huge fan of the Fast and Furious series.

Popping in the DVD right now...
What think ye?
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A historical thing just happened.

rayrobinson333 has uploaded a one-hour training footage of Ricardo Lopez.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:15 PM   #3582
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Similar to Orriray's question, but what's the biggest venue you ever fought at?

Also would be really interested in a bit of a description of the toughest fight you've ever been in, whether it's pro, amateur, gym war, possibly a random street fight, whatever.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:24 PM   #3584
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