Wladimir Klitschko vs. Francesco Pianeta

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by LuckyLuke

Haye was a worldchampion and his opponents were bums!
I mean Audley Harrison?
Make no excuses. Haye vs Harrison was one of the worst woldchampion fights ever.

I don't think many considered him world champion. He had a belt but that was about it.

The Harrison fight I actually went to, praying audley would land that big left.

Either way I don't see how that relates to this thread.

[TheReal]

Lol at these Euro trying to make this fight still look good when really it's just another Euro bum being fed to Wlad. You Germans are a class act.

[iceferg]

Originally Posted by Maximus

That's all that needs to be said. Whether you're a Klitard or their worst critic, no-one should be supporting this fight. If Haye had fought Wlads last three opponents and had Pianeta lined up, he'd be the laughing stock of this board, and rightfully so.

Originally Posted by LuckyLuke

Haye fought shot Ruiz and fucking Audley while he was wold champion.
It dont get worse then that.

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

Haye was a title holder. Wlad is the unified champion.

There's a difference in expectation.

Originally Posted by LuckyLuke

Haye was a worldchampion and his opponents were bums!
I mean Audley Harrison?
Make no excuses. Haye vs Harrison was one of the worst woldchampion fights ever.

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

I don't think many considered him world champion. He had a belt but that was about it.

The Harrison fight I actually went to, praying audley would land that big left.

Either way I don't see how that relates to this thread.

If you actually read the posts that Maximus guy brought up Wladimir's competition and implied Haye's was better. That's what lead to Harrison and shot Ruiz being brought up.

[Peril]

Wladimir Klichko is coming for you O he deflowered Wach, now Pianetta, then hopefully Povetkin or some glassjawed fraud of a brit or Yankee. Price and Mitchel got exposed, who's left?

[boxeo#1]

Funny how people still expect Waldo to KO him after his fail vs Wach.

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by iceferg

If you actually read the posts that Maximus guy brought up Wladimir's competition and implied Haye's was better. That's what lead to Harrison and shot Ruiz being brought up.

I see now fair point

[Asterion]

Originally Posted by boxeo#1

Funny how people still expect Waldo to KO him after his fail vs Wach.

Fail?

Wach took a beating. The guy has a granite chin and that's why he didn't go down by Wlad's bombs, who were landing ALL NIGHT.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by iceferg

If you actually read the posts that Maximus guy brought up Wladimir's competition and implied Haye's was better. That's what lead to Harrison and shot Ruiz being brought up.

I never implied Haye's resume over the past 3 fights and his next potential opponent is better, because it IS better. He has Harrison, Wlad, Chisora, and possibly Vitali lined up. Are you seriously trying to say that he gets trumped by Mormeck (who Haye already KTFO of a better, younger version at his natural weight), Thompson (he was a mandatory so Wlad gets a pass), Wach (who?) and Pianeta (who again?)

The only tomato can Haye has faced in his last 3 fights was Harrison and there was huge domestic interest in the fight. Next you'll be saying Germany is crying out for Wlad to face Pianeta

[Absolutely!]

Heavyweight division's totally going down the pan if Pianeta is the best available option.

Why, oh why, can't Povetkin grow the rudiments of a pair of testicles? They don't even have to be full size, just present is all I ask.

[derrick]

This fight makes WLad look bad to me. I hope Wlad pulls out of this fight. This fight makes the sport look bad. Francesco Pianeta has done nothing to earn a shot at the title. He is 100% tomato can. The best things boxing fans can do is not watch it. Lets send a message by not supporting this fight. Being Heavyweight Champ means nothing these days because of fights like this.

[Boxing Fanatic]

pianeta quits once he gets hit by a wlad right to the face. "fug this shite"

[Kevin Willis]

Has Pianeta ever shown any chin issues up to this point. Sorry for not being up to date on him.

I think we all knew that Jennings was never going to take this fight at this stage. Anyone who blames Wlad's management for Jennings not happening is just deluded.

[iceferg]

Originally Posted by Maximus

I never implied Haye's resume over the past 3 fights and his next potential opponent is better, because it IS better. He has Harrison, Wlad, Chisora, and possibly Vitali lined up. Are you seriously trying to say that he gets trumped by Mormeck (who Haye already KTFO of a better, younger version at his natural weight), Thompson (he was a mandatory so Wlad gets a pass), Wach (who?) and Pianeta (who again?)

The only tomato can Haye has faced in his last 3 fights was Harrison and there was huge domestic interest in the fight. Next you'll be saying Germany is crying out for Wlad to face Pianeta

Your mentioning these fights but let's remember Wladimir has been actively fighting. Thompson is a much more proven fighter than Chisora. Wach is better than Harrison. Your bringing up Wladimir as one of Haye's opponents yet you forget to mention that Wladimir fought Haye in that fight as well.

I'm sure that any level headed boxing fan would agree that while WK's opposition could perhaps be a bit better it is still better than Haye's. Haye isn't even actively fighting so how can you go on as thoughhe is fighting better people? also Mormeck is considered one of Haye's best wins.

[freedom2013]

Pianeta has never been down either as a pro or as an amateur.

He was world amateur youth heavyweight champion. Francesco is not flashy, but he's sturdy and has good technical skills. I thought he was finished when I heard he had cancer a few years ago, but his treatment was successful. Pianeta is ranked #14 on BoxRec and #12 by the IBO computer. The highest ranked opponent he's defeated was ranked #18 at the time by the IBO computer.

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Timothy Bradley's next opponent Provodnikov is ranked BoxRec #24 in a lighter weight division than Bradley (he's never fought at 147 before). The highest ranked fighter Provodnikov ever defeated was ranked #58 by the IBO computer! Even though Bradley in contrast to Provodnikov is generally ranked in the top 10 P4P, nobody is complaining about Bradley-Provodnikov.

Why are people so hard on the Klitschkos?

[Sugar Nick]

Originally Posted by Berliner

Again you have no clue about the situation! Pulev wont fight Wladimir as a Voluntary and already said that he wants another fight before he will fight Wladimir!
Adamek? Would be even more crap than Pianeta! And I dont think that he wants to fight Wladimir! Because he knows that he would get his ass beaten very bad.
Haye? After his last performance? Why should he give Haye a rematch? He won clearly no need for another fight against Haye. Povetkin.... he will fight Povetkin this year I am pretty sure about that! Thompson? Hmm NO! He got KOed two times no need for a third!
Fury? He wants to get mandatory he would be plain stuipid to fight Wladimir as a Voluntary (gets more money as a mandatory)
Solis and Helenius Solis has to get in shape first! He looked very shot against Airich! Noway he would be better than Pianeta at the moment! Helenius has to look if his arm his good enough for boxing! He has a match against Sprott!
So I dont think it is that easy for Wladimir to get a better opponent than Pianeta... Also Pianeta is not that bad how people make him!

Fury has been saying for 2 months that he would fight either Klitschko.
And Wladimir himself asked the Povetkin fight to get pushed to Summer so he can milk his titles and get more money and a more padded record by fighting another undeserving stiff.