Fighters Floyd Mayweather must fight to get 15-20 ATG status.

MVC · 03-03-2013, 07:06 PM

In the opinions of many experts whom I've talked with, most of them agree that Floyd Mayweather is currently a top 25 ATG. I agree with this.

I believe that wins over Martinez, Garcia, Canelo/Trout, Pac, Devon, Matthyse, Guerrero could potentially pull him to a top 15-20 spot

I really hope he fights those guys in his last 6 fights

Collie · 03-03-2013, 07:24 PM

Pacquaio in 2009

illwill007 · 03-03-2013, 07:24 PM

Guerrero will be a tough fight, but I doubt it will be a standout victory when history revisits his career. At this point in his career, he isn't perceived as doing anything great, so to get ranked 15-20 he would have to face Martinez, Canelo/Trout. Garcia/Devon/Matthyse do nothing for his legacy. Then go back in time and make the Pacquiao fight AFTER people said he was ducking like November 2010 and win.

Unfortunately history will focus more on who he didn't fight(For whatever reason), and overlook his great achievements at 140+. For example Mosley 2010 was a great win because there was this perception prior that Mayweather was afraid to fight him. Mayweather outclassed him over 12 rounds and showed some heart coming forward after he was rocked.

SMS Employee · 03-03-2013, 07:35 PM

yeah beating pac in 2010/11 would have sealed it.

MVC · 03-03-2013, 08:24 PM

I think atm Pac ranks around 40-45 (In all fairness)

May around 25-30 because of longetivity, superiority over everyone else, undefeated, etc etc. 5 division champion, 8 time champ

I think he can still make 10-15

Nonito Smoak · 03-03-2013, 08:36 PM

Non Top Rank fighters, non Middleweights; assuming they win out until then:
Guerrero
Alvarez
Alexander
Garcia
Lara

The Akbar One · 03-03-2013, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Collie

Pacquaio in 2009

Martinez, and Trout would be tougher opponents than Pac.

Boxing Fanatic · 03-03-2013, 08:49 PM

canelo even though his record is shite, would be nice. even martinez would be good since serg is bigger than him and they r about the same age

str1 · 03-03-2013, 08:55 PM

Pac in 2009
Cotto pre-Magarito
Martinez-since he is considered the undisputed MW King at the moment.
Canelo-only IF Canelo either becomes an undisputed JrMW or undisputed MW or HOF of any sort.
Broner-IF Broner does become the next big thing HBO wants him to become.

Matthysse, Garcia, Alexander, Guerrero or any other fighter at the moment I don't see helping Floyd one bit for his ATG status.

MVC · 03-03-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxing Fanatic

canelo even though his record is shite, would be nice. even martinez would be good since serg is bigger than him and they r about the same age

ripcity · 03-04-2013, 01:57 AM

15-20 ATG? The question is what dose he need to to to secure his place in the top 5-10. The answer is that he needs to move up to 160 and win a championship there. There is no one right now at 147 or 154 who should beat him. Not too many in history who should either.

MVC · 03-04-2013, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ripcity

15-20 ATG? The question is what dose he need to to to secure his place in the top 5-10. The answer is that he needs to move up to 160 and win a championship there. There is no one right now at 147 or 154 who should beat him. Not too many in history who should either.

I do think top 5-10 is a definitely possibility. No one in the sport has dominated like he has. 17 years without a loss.

Wins at 160 would give him a definite boost in ATG rankings.

darryl1914 · 03-04-2013, 02:57 AM

It's like you guys don't even try anymore. Making sense is not even part of the HATER-EQUATION". Devon Alexander is on your list, but when Floyd said he was the "frontrunner" for the May 4th fight. All of you were yelling "BOOOOOOO....".

SMH!!!

MVC · 03-04-2013, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by darryl1914

It's like you guys don't even try anymore. Making sense is not even part of the HATER-EQUATION". Devon Alexander is on your list, but when Floyd said he was the "frontrunner" for the May 4th fight. All of you were yelling "BOOOOOOO....".

SMH!!!

He's not that great of a fight but he's definitely still a solid competitor.

Nonito Smoak · 03-04-2013, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by darryl1914

It's like you guys don't even try anymore. Making sense is not even part of the HATER-EQUATION". Devon Alexander is on your list, but when Floyd said he was the "frontrunner" for the May 4th fight. All of you were yelling "BOOOOOOO....".

SMH!!!

Floyd Mayweather Jr

Where fighting top 10 ranked guys with titles actually lowers your ATG standing

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Collie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,352 vCash: 4833	Re: Fighters Floyd Mayweather must fight to get 15-20 ATG status. Pacquaio in 2009
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illwill007 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 991 vCash: 75	Re: Fighters Floyd Mayweather must fight to get 15-20 ATG status. Guerrero will be a tough fight, but I doubt it will be a standout victory when history revisits his career. At this point in his career, he isn't perceived as doing anything great, so to get ranked 15-20 he would have to face Martinez, Canelo/Trout. Garcia/Devon/Matthyse do nothing for his legacy. Then go back in time and make the Pacquiao fight AFTER people said he was ducking like November 2010 and win. Unfortunately history will focus more on who he didn't fight(For whatever reason), and overlook his great achievements at 140+. For example Mosley 2010 was a great win because there was this perception prior that Mayweather was afraid to fight him. Mayweather outclassed him over 12 rounds and showed some heart coming forward after he was rocked.
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str1 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,911 vCash: 1000	Re: Fighters Floyd Mayweather must fight to get 15-20 ATG status. Pac in 2009 Cotto pre-Magarito Martinez-since he is considered the undisputed MW King at the moment. Canelo-only IF Canelo either becomes an undisputed JrMW or undisputed MW or HOF of any sort. Broner-IF Broner does become the next big thing HBO wants him to become. Matthysse, Garcia, Alexander, Guerrero or any other fighter at the moment I don't see helping Floyd one bit for his ATG status.
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ripcity Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it." Posts: 12,040 vCash: 856	Re: Fighters Floyd Mayweather must fight to get 15-20 ATG status. 15-20 ATG? The question is what dose he need to to to secure his place in the top 5-10. The answer is that he needs to move up to 160 and win a championship there. There is no one right now at 147 or 154 who should beat him. Not too many in history who should either.
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darryl1914 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 4,312 vCash: 1000	Re: Fighters Floyd Mayweather must fight to get 15-20 ATG status. It's like you guys don't even try anymore. Making sense is not even part of the HATER-EQUATION". Devon Alexander is on your list, but when Floyd said he was the "frontrunner" for the May 4th fight. All of you were yelling "BOOOOOOO....". SMH!!!
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