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Old 03-05-2013, 01:50 PM   #31
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Yeah just throw any Contender in there, any will do.

Half the top ten Contenders are coming off losses . Give it a rest Rob. Sit back, open your eyes and learn a thing or two about the fight game.
I'll get right on that.

There is a reason why you are the only person here defending this fight. It's not because everyone else is blind/wrong, either.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:54 PM   #32
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I'll get right on that.

There is a reason why you are the only person here defending this fight. It's not because everyone else is blind/wrong, either.
It's because I know enough about prizefighting to see what is taking place. I'm not defending, but not bitching about it either.

I understand why the two are fighting each other.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:57 PM   #33
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It's because I know enough about prizefighting to see what is taking place. I'm not defending, but not bitching about it either.

I understand why the two are fighting each other.
Everybody does. It's not exactly difficult to understand the reasoning. Congrats on figuring it out though.

Doesn't mean he deserves it or that it should be defended.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:03 PM   #34
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Everybody does. It's not exactly difficult to understand the reasoning. Congrats on figuring it out though.

Doesn't mean he deserves it or that it should be defended.
They obviously don't because even more interest, viewers and comparisons are drawn by common opponents. Not defending, but not up in arms over this.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:05 PM   #35
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There is a difference between understanding and agreeing (defending ) something.

You shouldn't take this personal.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:11 PM   #36
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They obviously don't because even more interest, viewers and comparisons are drawn by common opponents. Not defending, but not up in arms over this.
Well, I guess some of us are more interested in intriguing fights between worthy, and (to drive this word into the ground) deserving competitors than PPV numbers.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:36 PM   #37
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Well, I guess some of us are more interested in intriguing fights between worthy, and (to drive this word into the ground) deserving competitors than PPV numbers.
A super fight between Anderson Silva and JJ tops any title defense JJ could make right now. JJ v Sonnen is about a lot more than PPV numbers

Go back in time and you will see that no other fight for JJ made more sense than this one. Gustafsson was booked and you can't tell me Glover deserves a Title Fight even at this point. Chael Sonnen doesn't either, but he's got more reasons than the rest of them:

- Availability

- Stepped up on short notice when nobody else did

- Knows how to sell a fight

- Just fought Anderson Silva in one of the most anticipated match ups of 2012.

Anderson #ing Silva, the man that the fans want to see JJ fight hte most. Nothing is more intriguing than a super fight between the two, and this is how it's done. It's too bad that a month out some are still complaining over Chael Sonnen fighting JJ, but this is the way it is. The way the fight game has been for the past 50 years or so. This is why I don't think a lot of you understand because these fights leading up to the "big one" have happened time and time again. Anyone of you... Just go on and feel free to complain all you want and in every thread following this one. This time will pass and JJ will get on with his defending his belt.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:48 PM   #38
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I do understand, but I believe that the names being thrown out there also have very little chance of winning.

Around the time he was tapping Belfort, Gustafsson had a fight scheduled as did Glover T (who isn't a true #1 Contender anyway). Machida was choked unconscious by JJ and didn't want a rematch when it was presented to him. The only person more deserving than Chael Sonnen is Gustafsson, but like I said it wasn't on the table. Scheduling conflict and you can't have it both ways here.

For the same reasons why Aldo is fighting Edgar and Pettis back to back is why JJ is fighting Sonnen.... To build even more interest and to sell super fights between Aldo, Bendo, JJ, and Anderson Silva. Ultimately bringing new fans to the Sport. I know through experience and I'm not going to explain it in every reply. I'm not disagreeing with what you have to say, but you outta know what is falling into place.




Dana White can't make every fight possible, and you shouldn't hold it against me if JJ v Silva doesn't happen. If they can't come to terms. But, I believe the two will fight each other within the next year.

There is no point in being upset over JJ v Sonnen anymore. TUF is ongoing, the fight is a month away and there is nothing stopping that. Like I said, many of you don't understand the fight game and you ought to by now.
I understand how the fight game works. Do you? What you have to understand is that the reason the UFC is reluctant to make the champion v champion super fights is because they make more money in the long run when fighters keep thier winning streaks. If Silva / Bones was to happen it would hurt ppv in the long run as at least one would lose thier appeal of invinsibility.

On a sepreate note: Goal!!!
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:15 PM   #39
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I feel that The UFC is anything but reluctant to make these super fights, but your entitled to that opinion. What I believe is that the fighters involved have a lot more to do with the outcome of negotiations than the promotion itself. GSP, Mayweather and Pacquiao have proven this over recent years. But, in the end what do I know? None of us know for sure what goes on behind closed doors
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:43 PM   #40
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has done nothing to warrant getting a title shot. He has been fighting at 185 for years, and was knocked out in the 2nd round at 185 in his last fight.
Damnit Rek, the game dont weight fool
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:44 PM   #41
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Damnit Rek, the game dont weight fool
Well played
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:11 PM   #42
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:44 AM   #43
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This is gonna be like Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran III or SRL vs Hearns II: meaningless in the big picture.

A good money fight for the UFC, none the less.
Nah, it's going to be another fight by two guys that aren't championship level anymore, that actually fight to try and finish one another.

Another Stann vs. Silva type fight, how it's supposed to be.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:12 AM   #44
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This is gonna be like Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran III or SRL vs Hearns II: meaningless in the big picture.

A good money fight for the UFC, none the less.
Then i guess most fights are meaningless
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