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Old 03-12-2013, 04:58 PM   #16
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Okay, so let's put more weight in the Pablo Cano win...and the Maidana performance.
Addie, we both know that I had Morales a little ahead of MAB before his comback, play fair
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:59 PM   #17
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Morales has a solid claim to be the 2nd best SBW ever behind Gomez, Barrera (nor JMM) can say the same in any weight class they competed in.

For the record, I rank EM, MAB & JMM all on the same level. None of these men are clearly ahead of the other two IMO.
That's because the SBW division is pretty thin historically. Besides, MAB beat this supposed 2nd best SBW of all the time in the eyes of the majority. What does that mean?

I agree with the second sentence.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:04 PM   #18
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I didn't think it was particularly close.
Really ?

You should watch it with the volume turned down, or at least without HBO commentary.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:11 PM   #19
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That's because the SBW division is pretty thin historically. Besides, MAB beat this supposed 2nd best SBW of all the time in the eyes of the majority. What does that mean?

I agree with the second sentence.
Thin it may be but its a division that both EM & MAB competed in in their young prime years & Erik built the better legacy there, plus, you have admitted before that that first fight could have gone either way even though you more often than not score it for MAB... & like you said about the EM-Diaz & EM-Maidana fights in the past... he didn`t win it on the official cards & it was too close to say he was robbed.

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Old 03-12-2013, 05:24 PM   #20
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Really ?

You should watch it with the volume turned down, or at least without HBO commentary.
Thanks for your insight Bill, I don't know much about this boxing lark.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:26 PM   #21
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Thanks for your insight Bill, I don't know much about this boxing lark.
Bill doesn't mean to insult your intelligence, Flea. Honest.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:38 PM   #22
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Thanks for your insight Bill, I don't know much about this boxing lark.
I know you know your boxing my man, but it can swing your opinion in close rounds, I watch all controversial & close fights with no sound to get a fair grasp of what went down. To me personally it does help.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:43 PM   #23
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Bill doesn't mean to insult your intelligence, Flea. Honest.
Very true, Addie.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:44 PM   #24
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I just don't know what to say gents.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:49 PM   #25
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Thanks for your insight Bill, I don't know much about this boxing lark.
Shouldn't your future employers know this?
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:57 PM   #26
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Shouldn't your future employers know this?
Eh?!
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:02 PM   #27
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Default Re: A question for those that rank Barrera over Morales.....

Here's a somewhat related question:

What if Morales and Marquez fought? How would that affect either of their careers?
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:07 PM   #28
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Here's a somewhat related question:

What if Morales and Marquez fought? How would that affect either of their careers?
If it was a razor close fight with no superiority shown I`d say it shouldn`t be a deciding factor of which fighter should rank higher
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:30 PM   #29
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I know you know your boxing my man, but it can swing your opinion in close rounds, I watch all controversial & close fights with no sound to get a fair grasp of what went down.
How the **** do you hear the punches go in?
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:32 PM   #30
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How the **** do you hear the punches go in?
Thank you!

If you're overly influenced by the commentators then it's your eyes that are the problem, not your ears.
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