Bernard Hopkins vs Marvin Hagler.

[WhataRock]

I think he did it wonderfully to be honest...by Leonard he had a bum back and his feet had clearly slowed, I don't think it's fair to judge his ability on that fight..a lot people seem to.

[Waynegrade]

Originally Posted by WhataRock

I think he did it wonderfully to be honest...by Leonard he had a bum back and his feet had clearly slowed, I don't think it's fair to judge his ability on that fight..a lot people seem to.

Good point. That was not prime Hagler. Not by a long shot ...

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by elmaldito

Hopkins at any weight and if its a 15 rounder he may stop hagler

He isn't stopping Hags. But he is ducking his jab and coming inside with sweeping counter rights and tying Hagler up after a hook to the body. Roughing him with shots inside, making hagler switch stances where he is no more effective, and gets outboxed more.

Hopkins, decision.

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by Waynegrade

Good point. That was not prime Hagler. Not by a long shot ...

and Ray Leonard was right as rain huh?

[orriray59]

Hopkins stopping Hagler.

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Hopkins stopping Hagler.

Right? Big ol UD.

[rusak]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Hopkins stopping Hagler.

He stopped a prime Glen Johnson, so I wouldn't say it's out of the question.

[LittleRed]

Originally Posted by rusak

He stopped a prime Glen Johnson, so I wouldn't say it's out of the question.

It's out of the question.

[rusak]

Originally Posted by LittleRed

It's out of the question.

If Hopkins landed at will like he did against Johnson, I think he would stop Hagler too. Hagler never took a beating like Johnson did in that fight.

[McGrain]

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by rusak

If Hopkins landed at will like he did against Johnson, I think he would stop Hagler too. Hagler never took a beating like Johnson did in that fight.

Wow. Equating Glen Johnson with Hagler is just a proclamation of ignorance.

[rusak]

Originally Posted by Seamus

Wow. Equating Glen Johnson with Hagler is just a proclamation of ignorance.

I don't think Hopkins would land as easily on Hagler as he did on Johnson. But in terms of chins, Johnson is ABSOLUTELY on Hagler's level and quite possibly better. Johnson's chin was tested at higher weights, unlike Hagler's. And Johnson at over 40 years old was still facing elite competition and big punchers.

[Waynegrade]

Originally Posted by LittleRed

It's out of the question.

Yes it is !!

[Waynegrade]

Originally Posted by Seamus

Wow. Equating Glen Johnson with Hagler is just a proclamation of ignorance.

Yes it is !! Love Johnson, but come on !! Lots of losses and hgaler was a guy who was never even floored! And Hopkins, who isn`t a big banger will stop him ???

[rusak]

Originally Posted by Waynegrade

Yes it is !! Love Johnson, but come on !! Lots of losses and hgaler was a guy who was never even floored! And Hopkins, who isn`t a big banger will stop him ???

I wouldn't expect Hopkins to stop him. But since we're talking chins here, Johnson was never legitimately floored either, and Johnson fought everybody. Hagler retired at 32, while Johnson fought big punchers at 168 and 175 while over 40 years old.