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Old 07-15-2007, 12:17 AM   #1
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Default James Toney v.s Roy Jones Jr

if toney would of taken his training for roy jones serious do you think toney would pick a SD against roy?
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:35 AM   #2
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Toney could never, even at his absolute best, outbox Roy Jones. He might have a slight chance to KO him, but he'd never win more than 4 rounds, no matter what shape he was in.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:59 AM   #3
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Jones beats him easy every day of the week.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:37 PM   #4
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:17 PM   #5
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It would have been closer but I think Roy's speed would still be a problem for Toney. I'm guessing something like 116-112 Jones.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:40 PM   #6
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You think Toney beats him?
IF toney trains hard enough which he didn't. then he would take a DECISION over roy.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:21 PM   #7
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Default Re: James Toney v.s Roy Jones Jr

oh well.

toney was 46-0 before facing jones.

thats a great record tho.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:27 PM   #8
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Default Re: James Toney v.s Roy Jones Jr

I am in agreement with most of what Sweet Pea says.

Jones style is all wrong for Toney.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:37 PM   #9
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Nope. Toney was outboxed by many boxers people figured he would run over. His boxing "skill" is overrated. People supposedly as good as him didn't get outboxed by the people he did.

Then comes the style matchup. Toney was a stationary counter-puncher, he relied on his timing to catch you and counter punch you. Against Jones, he couldn't time or defend against his quickness, ever. Jones was a terrible matchup for counter-punchers in his prime. Too quick and too hard to time. He could pot-shot and out-point them all day, especially a stationary one like Toney. Toney would never have beaten Jones. It might've been a closer fight had it been a 100% Toney, but to say he wins is like saying Corrales beats Mayweather had he been 100%. Even at his A-game, Roy was just a bad matchup for him. There was nothing AT ALL to suggest that Toney could ever do any better, he just got outclassed.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:44 PM   #10
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Are u trying to tell me that in a matchup between a Super Middleweight unbeaten Champion vs unbeaten Middleweight Champion live on HBO PPV between 2 top 10 fighters in the p4p rankings in a fight that was compared to Hearns-Leonard that James Toney didnt take training seriously ? If he didnt train hard how the **** did he lose like 35 pounds in camp ?
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:19 AM   #11
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if toney would of taken his training for roy jones serious do you think toney would pick a SD against roy?

Possible. I still lean towards Jones.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:45 AM   #12
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Struggling to make weight and not taking a fight seriously are two very different things.

Jones was, and always would be, too damn quick for Toney, who was actually a better technical boxer.
Toney's punchrate dropped alarmingly when he was countered off the charts.
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