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Old 04-02-2013, 10:51 AM   #31
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Are you a fan of Floyd Mayweather?





No.
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:07 AM   #32
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The Chavez fight is not one of the biggest robberies ever like some people like to say. I mean, I think that fight wouldnīt make my top 10 in the biggest robberies of all time...

Itīs a wrong decision, thatīs for sure I donīt think you can see more than 5 rounds to Chavez....
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:03 PM   #33
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I got to say, I've changed my tune. I still think he was gifted the Vasquez affair.

But he is probably a top 25 ATG.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:15 PM   #34
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I think I had it a draw after deductions.

Fact is I rate Vasquez so highly that even if he'd lost the decision that night I still would've given Pea P4P props for fighting as he did.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:23 PM   #35
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because he speaks in third person or something else. To be honest, i don't see the problem with it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:31 PM   #36
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because he speaks in third person or something else. To be honest, i don't see the problem with it.

Lots of reasons not to like Floyd Mayweather. Braggart, cherry-picker, classless, woman-beater. Take your pick. If you like him, whatever. You're welcome to it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:23 PM   #37
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I was going to respond.. but then I saw this post was done almost 5 years ago...Seamus has changed his mind on the matter after all that time... So no need to respond.. We all know I have a whitaker blow up doll in my room.. so what else needs to be said.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:55 PM   #38
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Had the Rivera I fight a draw, but Pea faded badly over the distance. He was probably lucky to leave the winner. I'll give you that this was a close fight that very well may have gone to the wrong man. Pea set it right with a conclusive, dominant win in the rematch, though. I tend to forgive fighters for getting small gifts if they rectify that situation with incredibly decisive return affairs. Whitaker undisputably proved to be the better fighter, and outclassed Rivera in their second go around. That's good enough for me in this scenario.

The boxing game universally regards the Chavez fight as one of, if not the, worst decisions of all time. That's all that needs to be said. It's not just the majority opinion, its the near consensus, and that is how history will always remember it. It will always help Whitaker.

A faded, coked up Whitaker beat the Russian. I think I had it 114-113 if memory serves.

He beat Vasquez by a couple of points, too. Thought it was a great, close fight, but I have never, ever considered the outcome as anything but, and I LOVE watching that one. I'd argue Whitaker beat Vazquez more clearly than Floyd beat DLH, and I thought both were reasonably clear decisions.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:03 PM   #39
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For a guy who was incessantly labeled as a hard-luck fighter screwed by the judges, he also carries some of the biggest gifts ever on his record, Rivera I was not even close, Pestriaev was a sham, and Vasquez was a flat out fix.

Yet, we have to hear the Chavez was a robbery though it was a close fight, that DLH did not win (he won going away to all but the most biased observer).

Whitaker was the master of doing 10 seconds of brilliant fighting in a 3-minute round. That, and a lot of running, turning his back, spinning opponents, clutching and jive-ass clowning for the audience, none of which garnered him a point from me.
Nobody beat him until he started to decline, he produced some of the most skilled boxing ever caught on film, he rarely lost rounds never mind fights and he was the first to blemish the record of the GREAT Julio Cesar Chavez.

I`d say he was a pretty special fighter, better than any fighter fighting today, that`s for sure. Easily one of the best boxers in history. Probably the best in the last 25 years.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:17 PM   #40
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I was going to respond.. but then I saw this post was done almost 5 years ago...Seamus has changed his mind on the matter after all that time... So no need to respond.. We all know I have a whitaker blow up doll in my room.. so what else needs to be said.
i was looking forward to seeing you come in here all angry
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:21 PM   #41
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Greatest Fighter of my lifetime, and I seriously doubt that ever changes.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:43 PM   #42
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i was looking forward to seeing you come in here all angry

You know me big buddy... I'm a whitaker "apologist"
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:51 PM   #43
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Jive-ass clowning is the whole basis for my scoring system.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:12 PM   #44
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Jive-ass clowning is the whole basis for my scoring system.
Where does mustachoeity rank?
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