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Old 04-04-2013, 09:30 PM   #76
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Mike Tyson was invincible in his prime, no man could ever beat him.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:43 PM   #77
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:49 AM   #78
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He also lost to the likes of Ruiz, Byrd, Larry Donald, James Toney and drew with Ruiz. Throughout his heavyweight stay he's had life and death battles with Alex Stewart, Bert Cooper, struggled with 42 year old Larry Holmes, Bowe, Bowe again, Moorer, Mercer, Bowe again, Bobby Czyz, Vaughn Bean (remember that little diddy?), Lewis, and the others I mentioned above.

The key word is "mightily" struggled. Always in a war. Tyson knocks guys out in less than a minute and their called bums. Holyfield wishes he could dominate an era the way Tyson did in the 80's. Not knocking Holy for it but I highly doubt he's a h2h force in this division.
yes from the millenium onwards he wasn't beating the big names frequently but that's what, 14 years or so since his first championship victory? He was in his late 30's and that sort of shit can't be held against him. Plus he still, though massively declined, managed to beat Ruiz and Rahman.

As I said, up until Lewis he beat everyone he fought and that includes the biggest names in one of the deepest divisions in heavyweight history.

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Old 04-05-2013, 05:57 AM   #79
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Ali :
Dempsey
Marcian
Louis

Tyson :
Holyfield
Foreman
Liston

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Old 04-05-2013, 06:02 AM   #80
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I don't think it's out of the question for Wlad to beat Ali. Im obviously going to take Ali in a primer Vs prime match up, but His best two punches may be neutralised by Wlad's jab and straight right. Ali's tendency to lean straight back may also become a problem as 90% of his punches are thrown down the pipe.

Ali leaning back works in his favour here because Wlad doesn't have the footwork to do anything about it and his reach has no advantage here. He's flat flooted if someone like Liston, who has a faster jab and way better footwork can't set his jab up/land on Ali. In this fight Wlad is a sitting battleship with no weapons.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:11 AM   #81
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1. Jimmy Young, prime.
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2. Baby Jimmy Young.
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3. Child Jimmy Young.
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4. Caucasian Jimmy Young.
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5. East Asian Jimmy Young.

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