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Old 04-08-2013, 10:14 AM   #31
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Default Re: Myth buster : Foreman didn't lift Frazier up with an uppercutt

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I hate that myth. You don't just lift up a 220 lbs fighter with a punch. It doesn't work like that.

This video proves it. In slow mo, we can see Frazier has some kind of delayed reaction to the punch that makes him ''jump'' to the side.

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Starting at 9:18.

Frazier didn't weigh 220........
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:22 AM   #32
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I don't think people actually mean that Foreman literally lifted him up with a punch, Colonel.
Theron does.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:28 AM   #33
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Yes he did. That uppercut that caused a delayed reaction and caused Frazier to jump.

Arguello lifted Kobayashi off his feet with body shots.
How can you say he did lift him up if you agree to say there is a delayed reaction ?


As for Arguello-Kobayashi, I haven't seen that fight. I imagine it looks like what Johnson did to Tommy Burns.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:31 AM   #34
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Frazier didn't weigh 220........
I didn't bother to check Boxrec, as it doesn't really make a difference here...
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Old 04-08-2013, 12:39 PM   #35
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How can you say he did lift him up if you agree to say there is a delayed reaction ?


As for Arguello-Kobayashi, I haven't seen that fight. I imagine it looks like what Johnson did to Tommy Burns.
It lifted Frazier off his feet. The punch did it.

Watch Arguello-Kobayashi it ain't long.
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:53 PM   #36
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I don't see the difference. If foreman doesn't throw the uppercut, Frazier's feet stay on the ground.
The difference is in what people are trying to convey with the sentence. In this case it's awe at Foreman's power that he was able to physically lift a grown man off his feet with a single punch, when in truth it was Frazier's discombobulation from the punch that caused him to jump a split second after the punch was thrown. Looked at like that it's no more impressive than a man knocking another man flat on his back, and considerably less impressive than a man knocking another man unconscious.

Saying the punch lifted Frazier off his feet is deceptive. It's like saying that Tyson bit Evander's ear so hard that it made him spin around. Factual only to a certain degree.
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:57 PM   #37
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I don't think people actually mean that Foreman literally lifted him up with a punch, Colonel.
I'd hazard a guess that many believe exactly that, orriray, else why is it so often mentioned in connection with Foreman's power?
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:43 PM   #38
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Can all the killjoys leave this? Of course he lifted Joe off his feet. That's what makes the fight game whether true or untrue. It's all about the folklore. Now leave it!
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:58 PM   #39
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How does it matter if the punch directly or indirectly lifted frazier off the ground? the point is the punch was so damn hard that it made frazier LITERALLY leave his feet and go down to the canvas. Period.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:58 PM   #40
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Can all the killjoys leave this? Of course he lifted Joe off his feet. That's what makes the fight game whether true or untrue. It's all about the folklore. Now leave it!
Vitali was well on his way to stopping Lennox before he was pulled out of the fight? You mean stuff like that?
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:07 PM   #41
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The difference is in what people are trying to convey with the sentence. In this case it's awe at Foreman's power that he was able to physically lift a grown man off his feet with a single punch, when in truth it was Frazier's discombobulation from the punch that caused him to jump a split second after the punch was thrown. Looked at like that it's no more impressive than a man knocking another man flat on his back, and considerably less impressive than a man knocking another man unconscious.

Saying the punch lifted Frazier off his feet is deceptive. It's like saying that Tyson bit Evander's ear so hard that it made him spin around. Factual only to a certain degree.
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:18 PM   #42
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Vitali was well on his way to stopping Lennox before he was pulled out of the fight? You mean stuff like that?


In the teeth.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:40 PM   #43
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Of course it didn't lift him off his feet. I always thought that was stupid. Joe was starting to go down and instinctively reacted. He is trying to remain upright and keep his footing and it turned into a strange jump.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:22 PM   #44
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Tyson was lifting people off the ground with his power

But he is of course the most powerful puncher in the history of the human race
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:27 PM   #45
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I dunno, I'm undecided. Was it Foreman's punches or was it telekinesis? Only Big George knows, and he's not telling. He aint about that life.
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