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Old 05-14-2013, 06:28 PM   #46
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Please someone stop Jones and Collins fighting.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:33 PM   #47
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Please someone stop Jones and Collins fighting.
would rather see calzaghe vs froch/ward
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:33 PM   #48
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Enjoyed that, and after giving him stick for Ringside fairplay to Nelson he handled that pretty well.

When this Collins-RJJ fight was first mooted I really wondered about Collins's reasons and were they financial at all. Hope there isn't anything like that behind it but he did come across as rather desperate there.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:34 PM   #49
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Had to laugh at woodhall's response to who wins between Froch v Calzaghe...."er..I see Froch everyday a the national sports centre etc....." exactly woodhall, why the **** were you put in as a commentator during the Olympics to spout spectacular biased commentary and down right cheerleading of your TeamGB pals at the national centre.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:37 PM   #50
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Enjoyed that, and after giving him stick for Ringside fairplay to Nelson he handled that pretty well.

When this Collins-RJJ fight was first mooted I really wondered about Collins's reasons and were they financial at all. Hope there isn't anything like that behind it but he did come across as rather desperate there.
very desperate
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:54 PM   #51
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Great Programme!! Even after all these years it's clear to see that the desire to win is still as strong as ever within all of them. I really hope Collins and Jones don't follow through with this fight though. Their time has been and gone - the ship sailed a long time ago on that matchup. I really don't see what a fight today would prove for either them.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:20 PM   #52
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Enjoyed that. Missed the first 20 minutes or so but **** Collins came accross as abit of a prick there to me.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:29 PM   #53
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yep collins was a right ****ing arsehole , with an ego like that youd of thought he was p4p candidate , he was beat by kalambay mccallum and reggie johnson , which is why jones alluded to him having beef with reggie lol ,who was roys sparring partner at the time. was kind of sad to see jones as in the shadows of collins and eubanks , whos best wins were against fellow brits , jones was mr unstoppable , superman of the 90s and i dont think he got his due there , not tht he was expecting it being on a british show . also seemed to be alot of respect for calzaghes talents from jones who was constantly nodding when joe was talking about timing and distance , great programme ! and to be fair to collins if he fights jones , ill prob buy it now , hoping to see him get schooled lol !
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:42 PM   #54
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Good show.

Fair play Sky and also Nelson who I personally thinks hosts it well, considering he is a former 'world champion' too.

Fascinating blend of characters.
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Enjoyed that, and after giving him stick for Ringside fairplay to Nelson he handled that pretty well.

When this Collins-RJJ fight was first mooted I really wondered about Collins's reasons and were they financial at all. Hope there isn't anything like that behind it but he did come across as rather desperate there.
Johnny's quite good when he's chatting as one of the lads. It's the autocue stuff he's shit at.

I thought Collins spoiled it slightly and was a little out of step with the nature of the programme.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:10 AM   #56
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Had to turn it off lads, Steve Collins was actually doing my ****ing head in.

Don't think I've ever took such a disliking to someone so quickly as I did to him last night.

We had (in my opinion) the greatest fighter of the modern era Roy Jones Jr there and alls we had to listen to was some irishman ****ing rambling on about a fight no one gives a **** about.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:22 AM   #57
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i wouldnt mind watching it if anyone has a link floating around!
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:38 AM   #58
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Met Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe last week at the dinner night through in Motherwell. I couldn't believe just how much of a gentleman Roy was. He comes across as a really nice humble guy, i was expecting him to be loud and brash but he was the complete opposite. More than happy to sign gloves for me and my brother.

Joe on the other hand was pissed up and sleezing badly over some young bit of stuff!!! Joe barely signed anything for fans. We were staying in the hotel so got to stay at the bar after hours, there i was told by one of the organizers that Calzaghe was a ****ing wanker and had refused to sign any more than 10 things (wasn't what was agreed prior). Joe and his mate were also rumored to have been dabbling on the old columbian marching powder aswell.

Met Willie Limmond too, he was sound as **** a really nice bloke. Couldn't believe how solid he was, hands like bloody shovels!! He said the Khan fight was one of the easiest fights he has been in even though he lost. He said he is looking to fight Mcallister next, if they offer decent money unlike last time.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:55 AM   #59
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Johnny's quite good when he's chatting as one of the lads. It's the autocue stuff he's shit at.

I thought Collins spoiled it slightly and was a little out of step with the nature of the programme.
Yeah Johnny was in his element there it seemed. Even though he was the host he was relaxed when he wasn't planted in front of an autocue as you say. Have felt that on fight nights when he's a pundit too. Although it's got to the point where the Ringside autocue has become a cult selling point it seems!

I felt that about Collins too. He seemed plain desperate unfortunately.


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yep collins was a right ****ing arsehole , with an ego like that youd of thought he was p4p candidate , he was beat by kalambay mccallum and reggie johnson , which is why jones alluded to him having beef with reggie lol ,who was roys sparring partner at the time. was kind of sad to see jones as in the shadows of collins and eubanks , whos best wins were against fellow brits , jones was mr unstoppable , superman of the 90s and i dont think he got his due there , not tht he was expecting it being on a british show . also seemed to be alot of respect for calzaghes talents from jones who was constantly nodding when joe was talking about timing and distance , great programme ! and to be fair to collins if he fights jones , ill prob buy it now , hoping to see him get schooled lol !

And also what wasn't said was that a Eubank with the mindset of the one that faced Calzaghe would've beaten Collins. There was no showboating and he went the full 12 against a young Calzaghe and was still going at the end.

His head was ****ed against Collins. There was no doubt the mind games with Collins pretending he'd been hypnotised spooked Eubank after what had happened with Watson; an apsect he didn't mention last night. When Eubank kept going on about fighting someone in Collins who was "willing to die in the ring" he's coming form the point of view of someone who nearly killed a man in the ring himself. And what Eubank didn't say is that he didn't want the same happening again.

I'm surprised the whole hypnosis thing wasn't brought up because what Collins banged on about all programme was 'planning' for fights; and there's no doubt a massive element of his plan against Eubank was to get inside his head before the first bell. Suppose you gotta say well done to Collins for playing on that mental weakness in Eubank for not going after opponents in the same manner post-Watson. Eubank always said he regretted not going after Collins properly following the knockdown in the 10th of the first fight.

But for Collins to call Eubank 'shopworn' by the time he fought Calzaghe because of the damage Carl Thompson had done to him in particular, was not only disrespectful but totally inaccurate. Eubank fought Thompson after the Calzaghe fight. Eubank's only 2 defeats prior to Calzaghe were against Collins; fights he'd never have lost if his head had been right.

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So, it's agreed then.....Steve Collins is a ****ing dickhead.
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