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Old 06-13-2013, 11:48 PM   #16
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Golota vs Brewster.......53 seconds later game over
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:53 AM   #17
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Golota vs Lewis
Running late...strange injection into his knee(?), police escort to the stadium, anxiety attack, rushed to the ring.
Didn't end well...
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:09 AM   #18
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Kirkland against Ishida, Bundrage against Powell I, and Campillo against Kovalev all looked extremely dry at the start of their bouts, though I'm not sure being properly warmed up would have made a difference in any of these cases.
Agree on all 3. Can't remember circumstances on Bundrage-Powell, but in the other 2 cases the fighters had been going through a lot of shit outside of the ring, and were clearly not mentally prepared.

Props to Kovalev tho. He's one of my favourite fighters ATM, but tomorrows fight against White will probably tell us more than the Campillo fight did.
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:58 PM   #19
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Also there may be cases where a fighter (the first Fighter to enter the Ring) has warmed up in the dressing room, only to be left to cool down by the inordinate delay in getting to the first bell, usually because the Home fighter, perceived star of the show, has to make a grand, time consuming entrance, whilst his opponent goes off the boil, Naseem Hamed was a great one for this, As i recall the Paul Ingle camp dictated a time Limit for Naz to complete his "Ėntrance Extravaganza" and if exceeded they would get back out of the ring and go back to the dressing room.
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Old 06-14-2013, 04:35 PM   #20
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Jesse James Leija was completely dry in the ring against Oscar and it cost him desperately.

Jack Dempsey in the first Fireman Jim Flynn fight.

It looked like Seth Mitchell had failed to warm up properly for both the Witherspoon and the Banks fight. It's not entirely surprising, given his and his trainer's lack of experience. Someone should tell them they'll have an advantage if they come to the ring with a nice sweat built up.
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Old 06-15-2013, 06:47 AM   #21
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Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquiao

Three knock downs in the first round cost him the fight in the scorecards.
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Old 06-15-2013, 07:17 AM   #22
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Rubio vs. Jantuah
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:20 AM   #23
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Default Re: Examples of not being properly warmed up

Saglam vs. Charr

Saglam wasn't really warmed up, couldn't breathe after two rounds and hurt his shoulder. He could win this fight and Charr did not hit him in the near of his injuried place.
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:25 AM   #24
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Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquiao.
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:26 AM   #25
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though he would have surely lost, Hatton defo got caught cold against Paquiao.

it happens, boxing history is full of such fights!
Hatton was simply shot to shit by the time he fought Pacquaio
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:25 AM   #26
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though he would have surely lost, Hatton defo got caught cold against Paquiao.

it happens, boxing history is full of such fights!
Wouldn't really say that Hatton hadn't warmed up correctly before entering that one though... that was more of a case of leaving half of himself in the gym before fight night.

We all know the carry on he had in his preparations for that fight.
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:33 PM   #27
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean.

When a fighter fails to properly warm up pre-fight, as in stretches, movement and a little shadow boxing to ready the muscles and body for strenuous action, this is simply a failure of the boxer or camp.

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What happens frequently in boxing (and, I guess other combat sports) there can be a lapse in mental? preparedness. There is a very sharp break between the normal world, with it's peaceful habits, even sparring hard, and a real head to head with another person trying, as hard as they can, to debilitate you. This can take a short time, even (I understand) for a pro fighter to adapt to. When a fighter is not yet in their 'fighting mind' - seems to be when they're most likely to receive those KO/TKO 1s.

That's my understanding of the 'caught cold', 'not properly warmed up' etc judgements. More of a mental rather than physical state. The adrenaline's not properly kicked in, still ad******g mentally to what is ultimately a very extreme situation. This is perhaps the riskiest moment of a fight and often determines the outcome.

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Old 06-15-2013, 05:36 PM   #28
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Does anyone have examples of fighters who went into fights after clearly not being warmed up properly and it costing them a fight. I often noticed how Steward would point out how fighter a or b was "dry". I suppose it was suppose to insinuate they were not properly warmed up. But I don't ever remember seeing a "dry" fighter loose. Any examples?
Campillo looked rather stiff against Kovalev.
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