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Old 07-26-2013, 01:00 AM   #1
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Default Muhammed Ali vs Wladimir Klitchsko - 12 Rounds No Decision

Who wins this fight. Both fighters need to stop the other fighter in order to get the win. If they dont win the fight by stoppage, they dont get paid.

An old time referee lets the action go, so any stoppage needs to be pretty much a 10 count.

How does this fight go down. Does Wlad decide to open up like his younger days, or does he use the same lean and grab tactics, hoping to wear Ali down and stop him late.

Is Ali able to land enough serious leather on Wlad, to enable him to stop the giant in a fight most people usually predict him to win on points or by tko.

Is neither fighter able to gain the ascendancy in the time frame and forced to settle for a draw?
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:34 AM   #2
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This fight would resemble a child attempting to catch a butterfly in a jar with no net.

Wlads limited , 1-2 attack doesn't beat Ali even 1 time out of 10.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:42 AM   #3
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This fight would resemble a child attempting to catch a butterfly in a jar with no net.

Wlads limited , 1-2 attack doesn't beat Ali even 1 time out of 10.
If feather fisted Joe Frazier can drop him imagine what Wlad 10'6 450lb,would do
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:03 AM   #4
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It would be painfully obvious from the start that Ali is just too quick for the lumbering Klit. Ali would move, step in and out hitting him at will while Wlad hits only air. Wlad can't corner Ali and his punches miss again and again. Pattern continues and after 5 rounds Ali has cut Wlad and his eyes are swelling badly. Wlad is exhausting himself in the process of trying to catch Ali and being hit with so much leather. A barrage from Ali in round nine send Wlad down on his back. He struggles up obviously looking like he does not want to continue but the ref let's it go. Another barrage and Wlad is down again. His handlers rush into the ring which ends the fight. Ali by Tko in round 9 in a one sided fight. Wlad is just too slow to contend with Alis speed.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:05 AM   #5
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This fight would resemble a child attempting to catch a butterfly in a jar with no net.

Wlads limited , 1-2 attack doesn't beat Ali even 1 time out of 10.

Absolute BS. Wlad would give Ali all he can handle, and then some. Even more than Norton did.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:11 AM   #6
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Norton had the speed and boxing ability to give Ali trouble. He also fought in a semi crouch, bending at the waist leaning away from Alis jab. Wlad does not have the same style but instead stands straight up and would be painfully slow vs prime Ali. One other point is norton never fought prime Ali. In this mythical matchup Wlad is facing the Ali of his prime.....This Ali would be hitting Wlad a dozen punches to one. It would be a massacre. Wlad does not have the durability to hold up under such an onslaught.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:22 AM   #7
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Norton had the speed and boxing ability to give Ali trouble. He also fought in a semi crouch, bending at the waist leaning away from Alis jab. Wlad does not have the same style but instead stands straight up and would be painfully slow vs prime Ali. One other point is norton never fought prime Ali. In this mythical matchup Wlad is facing the Ali of his prime.....This Ali would be hitting Wlad a dozen punches to one. It would be a massacre. Wlad does not have the durability to hold up under such an onslaught.

Wlad slow? Tommy Brooks said his hand speed is on par with Larry Holmes. Ali likes to counter punch, he would not here. The rope a dope would not work, and Wlad would be the stronger of the two in a clinch.


In addition, Ali who said he was out on his feet several times vs Foreman, would have to deal with Wlad's sustained power over 12 rounds.


Ali hitting Wlad a dozen punches to one? ROLMAO, 2nd tier heavies hit Ali and took rounds from him. The same guys would hardly touch Wlad.


Amazing stuff, some of you guys need to watch the films.


Ali in his prime from 66-67 has a slight edge. Wlad has the edge over ANY 1970's version over Ali.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:56 AM   #8
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Another pointless thread. There's no way Ali could possibly defeat a bigger, stronger opponent, who mastered jab and is extremely powerful, also incredibly fast for his size. Just pointless.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:46 AM   #9
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If you think Wlad is as fast as Holmes you need to watch prime Holmes. Not close. Wlad would be a lumbering punching bag vs Ali...he fights with his hands low and he has no head movement so he cannot avoid the combinations coming his way. It would be a massacre.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:48 AM   #10
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Also I don't need to watch films...I lived though the eras of both Ali and Holmes. I know the details of both men as it happened unlike you who can only pull snippets from history books as reference.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:22 PM   #11
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If feather fisted Joe Frazier can drop him imagine what Wlad 10'6 450lb,would do

FEATHER FISTED Joe Frazier ????
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:23 PM   #12
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Ali's sharp blows would make Klitschko's face and eyes swell up so badly,the referee would have no option but to stop the contest in this scenario.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:28 PM   #13
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Too many people are on Wlads nuts in ESB. I mean c'mon who has he fought thats "great"?
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:34 PM   #14
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FEATHER FISTED Joe Frazier ????
Worms for breakfast?
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:24 PM   #15
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The stipulation would make a big difference in how both fighters approach the match. It is very different to the sport both excelled in.

That said, while Wladimir Klitschko's outside game is as tough as they come and his long power-punches are crushing, Ali has a lot of advantages over him. Hand and footspeed, chin and toughness, ring generalship and survival skills. That last part is very important in a match of this nature. Once Wlad's leggs are wobbled, as is the norm with tall fighters, they tend to stay wobbly.

This would be the first match where we'd see Ali work the inside, while moving inside and out. Don't think he can't fight inside against a man with Wlad's wingspan just because you've never seen him do it -- he could do so on talent and guile alone.

I'd bet on Ali to tag him with a diamond pure, short right hand from a close angle. Think the shot he nabbed Lyle with. Once Wlad is hurt, Ali can't miss a target that big -- Wlad would lose the quick footwork that protects him so.
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