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Old 08-23-2013, 07:05 PM   #46
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Guess he aint turning pro
Yes & no. AIBA pro.
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Yes & no. AIBA pro.
Does anybody know if these fights wil count on regualr records?

Tervel Pulev is going to be part of this too.
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Does anybody know if these fights wil count on regualr records?

Tervel Pulev is going to be part of this too.
No. Like the WSB they are pro rules but do not count as sanctioned professional bouts like those you see on Boxrec.

However, unlike the WSB, I believe participants lose their eligibility to participate in amateur tournaments.

Once you go AIBA Pro you need to stick with it or jump into the real pros. No turning back. (I think)
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No. Like the WSB they are pro rules but do not count as sanctioned professional bouts like those you see on Boxrec.

However, unlike the WSB, I believe participants lose their eligibility to participate in amateur tournaments.

Once you go AIBA Pro you need to stick with it or jump into the real pros. No turning back. (I think)
This massively sucks big time.
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This massively sucks big time.

Yes, there's an element of suckage here, yes. I agree. I still wake up in the morning lamenting the non-counting Dinu fights recently as well. Because that's how serious I am about these fights counting!
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:51 AM   #51
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Yes, there's an element of suckage here, yes. I agree. I still wake up in the morning lamenting the non-counting Dinu fights recently as well. Because that's how serious I am about these fights counting!
Yeah, you'd think with how bad the heavies have been for a decade now, they would want to count the fights and help a man develop a career.

The only consolation is that the heavies are FINALLY fighting each other, which is what makes a good division. The talent has been there for awhile, it is just there has never really been a way to gauge it.

At least the winners of Mago-Perez, Chisora-Boytsov, and Haye-Fury will join Pulev as exciting and established contenders.

Perhaps even Helenius, Spzilka, Glazkov and Wilder can get themselves in there.

Maybe Wladdy can wind down his career with a series of very high quality, meaningful wins.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:16 AM   #52
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Yes, there's an element of suckage here, yes. I agree. I still wake up in the morning lamenting the non-counting Dinu fights recently as well. Because that's how serious I am about these fights counting!
Well at least with AIBA Pro we know up front what the deal is.

I'm still really confused by the inconsistency Bigger's Better situation.

For a while they counted as legit sanctioned pro bouts - then all of a sudden, no?

...and some of the backlogged matches are left as-is, while some are removed from pro records?
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Yeah, you'd think with how bad the heavies have been for a decade now, they would want to count the fights and help a man develop a career.

The only consolation is that the heavies are FINALLY fighting each other, which is what makes a good division. The talent has been there for awhile, it is just there has never really been a way to gauge it.

At least the winners of Mago-Perez, Chisora-Boytsov, and Haye-Fury will join Pulev as exciting and established contenders.

Perhaps even Helenius, Spzilka, Glazkov and Wilder can get themselves in there.

Maybe Wladdy can wind down his career with a series of very high quality, meaningful wins.
It's not happening! But, yes, good on the other things, I think.

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Well at least with AIBA Pro we know up front what the deal is.

I'm still really confused by the inconsistency Bigger's Better situation.

For a while they counted as legit sanctioned pro bouts - then all of a sudden, no?

...and some of the backlogged matches are left as-is, while some are removed from pro records?
I had a perfect emoticon for this but ... I can't use it here anymore. But it was perfect parts confused, angry and annoyed. PERFECT PARTS. It was the perfect expression of human emotion which I wish to now portray to you, in public, via animation. Now, aside from the emoticon I've already used I have to use...words...in text... Oops, there's another emoticon. Another imperfect, domestic, regular emoticon.
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:46 PM   #54
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It's not happening! But, yes, good on the other things, I think.



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Cammarelle was cheated out of the gold medal in the last Olympics. He won the fight, but lost the political.............

I hope Helenius can get back to where he was before.............
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