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Old 04-11-2014, 02:19 PM   #32596
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Void is still running from Pac...............Void refused to fight Golovkin at 154, refused Martinez at 154 or even 150, he refused to fight Paul Williams, Margarito, you name it............
What's funny is, you say he ducked GGG but who has he beat? What's his ppv numbers looking like? Then you say he refused Sergio at 154 and even 150? Martinez was older than Oscar when he wanted to fight.. Do you see how you and others discredit Floyd for fighting a 'past prime' Oscar? Also at 150? lol Wonder what stupid name they will call him after he lose.. Canelo turned into Drainelo a few weeks after the fight..

You make excuses for the people Mayweather beat.. I don't recall Canelo ever saying he was drained but you guys do.. Mosley said he felt great.. You say he was shot.. You say Marquez lost because he went up in weight and was bloated.. Marquez landed 16% of his punches and said he'll never fight Mayweather again.. Then he goes to ko Pac.. He's ducking Peter Buckley too huh?
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:24 PM   #32597
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Manny has the better resume takes on the better fighter agreed to all the demands now he must oblige a new demand .Its clear who the ***** is !


His last name is Mayweather !
As far as who has the better resumse overall is debatable, what isn't debatable is since negotiations first took place Mayweather has consistently fought better fighters than Pacquiao, since 09 Pac doesn't have a win as good as Mayweather over Mosley or Ortiz for that matter
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:30 PM   #32598
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How did PBF know Pac was going to turn down testing? Roach said initially testing wouldn't be an issue only to later have problems with it. BTW it's not irrelevant, it's just your way to try an dismiss a point that can't be defended.
he didnt.

it doesnt matter what pac will agree to.

pedjr will always find another excuse to duck the fight, as was proven now.

pedjr tried to make venue and date as issues as well, but on both counts, pac's team agreed to his demands.

remember gbp/tr were on the way to cowboy stadium to check on jones offer. suddenly, pedjr decided the venue was mgm.

pac fought cotto in november. they were negotiating well into end of december and pac was to run for congress the next yr. elections was may. pac's team was suggesting aug/sep, iirc, post elections.

pedjr's team insisted on march, which means pac will have barely rested after the cotto fight.

pedjr was throwing shit on the wall, found something that stuck and ran with it.


if it is not one thing, it's another, as proven later in succeeding negotiations.

now pedjr wouldnt even acknowledge there was an issue on drug testing.

"we were not seeing eye to eye on terms...". his words.


edit: and this wasnt the first he pulled off a duck move. 24rhs before pac-hatton, he hurriedly signed jmm to a fight where the weight class wasnt announced.

the rest is ducking history....
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:34 PM   #32599
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pacquaio was chaseing duckyweather and he used his homemade testing as his get out of jail card

also how can a fighter come up with his own rules regarding testing ?

duckweather should leave the testing to the commission and fight this is the biggest roadblock duckweather has placed
Stuff like this is the reason why you have no credibility.

Did Pac have his own rules when he asked Rios to test? I thought Commission testing was just fine?
What about when he asked for a $10,000,000 fine for PBF coming in over weight? That's a true roadblock and a roadblock that PBF agreed to I might add.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:39 PM   #32600
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he didnt.

it doesnt matter what pac will agree to.

pedjr will always find another excuse to duck the fight, as was proven now.

pedjr tried to make venue and date as issues as well, but on both counts, pac's team agreed to his demands.

remember gbp/tr were on the way to cowboy stadium to check on jones offer. suddenly, pedjr decided the venue was mgm.

pac fought cotto in november. they were negotiating well into end of december and pac was to run for congress the next yr. elections was may. pac's team was suggesting aug/sep, iirc, post elections.

pedjr's team insisted on march, which means pac will have barely rested after the cotto fight.

pedjr was throwing shit on the wall, found something that stuck and ran with it.


if it is not one thing, it's another, as proven later in succeeding negotiations.

now pedjr wouldnt even acknowledge there was an issue on drug testing.

"we were not seeing eye to eye on terms...". his words.


edit: and this wasnt the first he pulled off a duck move. 24rhs before pac-hatton, he hurriedly signed jmm to a fight where the weight class wasnt announced.

the rest is ducking history....
How do you know? What we do know is that PBF agreed to the weight penalty the 50/50 split who would walk in first and agreed to a 14 day cut off and Pac didn't he walked away from the table to fight Clottey a fight no one demanded. Everything else is pure speculation and spin.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:43 PM   #32601
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Just for fun, can someone answer this question.. In 2009 put every boxer from 140-154 in a field or something.. Put Floyd Mayweather on a speaker and have him say "you have to take USDA random blood test to fight me. If you don't have a problem with that, move to the left." How many boxers would still be standing there with Manny?
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:47 PM   #32602
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Under this logic, I have no balls then.. I'm not going to look stupid on live tv forever getting KOed.. I would try my hardest not to.. I try not to get a paper cut at work let alone KOed...
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:52 PM   #32603
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Anyone who refuses / tries to negotiate down on drug testing should be automatically viewed as being suspicious to anyone capable of any sort of critical thinking.


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anyone who painted himself as the champion of cleaning up boxing and refuses to divulge his own personal/ drug test record to prove he is clean, should be viewed automatically as dirty and should be condemned by his own self.

worse he paid for his records not to be public.

same shit with usada. they backed themselves into corner by quashing a subpoena supposedly to open up their cleint's records.

for a company which prided itself as the guardian of clean sports of sorts, they actually refused an opportunity to show how clean their client is.


that was self ownage courtesy of your boy pedjr.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:00 PM   #32604
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Mayweather. Not even close
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:00 PM   #32605
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Plenty of people question Pac's legacy and opponents, where have you been? Pac is a walking contradiction wouldn't test for PBF but tests for Rios. He should have remained consistent about his testing policy now he looks like he did indeed have something to hide.
PBF's star has risen since this fight was close to being made he's on top of the sport by far while Pac's star has diminished 350K in buys against Rios and trouble selling this Bradley fight. He couldn't dream about getting a 50/50 split like he did back in 2009. He would be lucky to get 60/40.


No one questions Manny's legacy ! All the test nonsense is just one of many excuses that his fans continue to avoid !

Name one person out side of Floyd that made similar demands of Manny ?

Marquez fights him 4 times with no issue but for some reason Floyd finds all these reasons not to fight him..Manny also fought Clotty and Margacheato Cheato is a guy who challenged him to his face and what happened oh well you need to wait ..Seems if its not an easy pick there comes a road block !

And Pac's star has diminished it's still better than Maidana,Ortiz and Guurrero yet Floyd can't find a reason to fight the 2nd biggest draw in boxing


You Floyd fans keep reaching but you come up with nothing valid ! Floyd is the one that looks like the duck .Bradley is fighting him for a 2nd time Floyd still looking for a new excuse .

And as far as the 60/40 well the split is irrelevant because we know Floyd will come out with another insulting offer that he knows Manny won't accept like 40 mil with no PPV ..Your boy is a genius at ducking!
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:01 PM   #32606
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Stuff like this is the reason why you have no credibility.

Did Pac have his own rules when he asked Rios to test? I thought Commission testing was just fine?
What about when he asked for a $10,000,000 fine for PBF coming in over weight? That's a true roadblock and a roadblock that PBF agreed to I might add.
you're the one with no credibility.

you keep spewing the bullsheet that pac/arum walked away from the mediation yet it was both sides that agreed to stop the mediation before judge weinstein's imposed deadline.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:03 PM   #32607
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anyone who painted himself as the champion of cleaning up boxing and refuses to divulge his own personal/ drug test record to prove he is clean, should be viewed automatically as dirty and should be condemned by his own self.

worse he paid for his records not to be public.

same shit with usada. they backed themselves into corner by quashing a subpoena supposedly to open up their cleint's records.

for a company which prided itself as the guardian of clean sports of sorts, they actually refused an opportunity to show how clean their client is.


that was self ownage courtesy of your boy pedjr.

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Old 04-11-2014, 03:06 PM   #32608
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Floyd "No Nuts" Mayweather
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:08 PM   #32609
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As far as who has the better resumse overall is debatable, what isn't debatable is since negotiations first took place Mayweather has consistently fought better fighters than Pacquiao, since 09 Pac doesn't have a win as good as Mayweather over Mosley or Ortiz for that matter
thanks for the laugh.


as for mosley. he was ****ing 99 yrs old, unroided, hasnt fought in 2 yrs.

last time he fought, he beat a guy found out to be using plaster in his previous fights.

he beat a guy obviously distracted and now "defanged". the win was a formality. else, margarito would have won and pedjr's would have cited his typical excuse. "waaaaaaaaaaaaa top rank".

i would have said, pac's cotto win was better than pedjr's mosley win, but since you put 09 as the timeline, ill just say this:

pac;s run at ww is just icing on the cake.

an icing that includes multiple titles in multi weight divisions which allowed him to win fotd and earned him a guiness records for titles in 8 different divisions. seems like the icing jsut keeps adding layer after layer.

and a cake that includes 3 atg's in his resume.


pedjr is nothing but a good salesman but with shit resume.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:14 PM   #32610
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duckweather moved hatton up to 147 he was fat

pacquaio knocked hatton out in 2 rounds at his best weight
After Mayweather laid the blue print
what???

in what way, shape or form did pac copy from "mayweather's blueprint?"
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