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Old 04-11-2014, 01:51 PM   #32851
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Pacquiao will end up taking the majority of the blame for the fight not happening when people look back on this in the future.

  • The fan boys will have moved on or grown up
  • Anyone using words like Gayweather, Duckweather, Flomo, Pactard etc etc will have reached puberty and realise how pathetic they were.
  • Random drug testing will (hopefully) be more prevalent
  • Fans will hopefully not be as tribal about these 2 fighters after they've both retired and be able to judge on the facts not blind hate / love.
Anyone who refuses / tries to negotiate down on drug testing should be automatically viewed as being suspicious to anyone capable of any sort of critical thinking.


The 2009 offer with 50/50 and the 14 day cut
off which Pacquiao walked away from will look so so bad for him from a historical / legacy point of view. It really is indefensible.
your an idiot

pacquaio accepted the 14 day cut of and then duckweather changed it to full testing and when accepted that ducky wanted more money the fool has been avoiding manny for 6 years
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:52 PM   #32852
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your an idiot

pacquaio accepted the 14 day cut of and then duckweather changed it to full testing and when accepted that ducky wanted more money the fool has been avoiding manny for 6 years
He didn't accept it back in 2009 he said no pulled out and fought Clottey. There's no excusing this. The 2009 talks were the closest this fight was to happening.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:54 PM   #32853
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Default Re: Freddie Roach: Mayweather doesn't have the balls to get knocked out

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"When you have a fighter that will go for it and has the balls to go for it he might get knocked out. Mayweather doesn't have the balls to go for it and his fights put you to sleep. I fell asleep on two of his fights and I'm a boxing fan,"

Roach also says that Maidana is a dangerous puncher but that Mayweather won't stand and trade with him and will run(Interesting comment considering Roach said almost 5 years ago that Mayweather's legs are shot). Roach also mentioned that Ward is a boring fighter. When it was pointed out that Mayweather has higher PPV numbers than Pacquiao, Roach stated that less people bought Pacquiao's fights when Pacquiao decided to be compassionate and not try to knockout his oppnents.
Roach is an idiot. Sorry but it is true. Mayweather has the skills to NOT get knocked out. The same cannot be said of Roach or most of his fighters.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:01 PM   #32854
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He didn't accept it back in 2009 he said no pulled out and fought Clottey. There's no excusing this. The 2009 talks were the closest this fight was to happening.
thats irrelevent if duckweather at that time never asked for his homemade testing like he never did before the fight would of happend as well
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:03 PM   #32855
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thats irrelevent if duckweather at that time never asked for his homemade testing like he never did before the fight would of happend as well
How did PBF know Pac was going to turn down testing? Roach said initially testing wouldn't be an issue only to later have problems with it. BTW it's not irrelevant, it's just your way to try an dismiss a point that can't be defended.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:07 PM   #32856
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How did PBF know Pac was going to turn down testing? Roach said initially testing wouldn't be an issue only to later have problems with it. BTW it's not irrelevant, it's just your way to try an dismiss a point that can't be defended.
pacquaio was chaseing duckyweather and he used his homemade testing as his get out of jail card

also how can a fighter come up with his own rules regarding testing ?

duckweather should leave the testing to the commission and fight this is the biggest roadblock duckweather has placed
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:08 PM   #32857
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Default Re: Freddie Roach: Mayweather doesn't have the balls to get knocked out

Freddie is really losing it. Just a couple days ago, he said Bradley is retarded, brain damaged and cant speak properly. Thats a bit rich coming from him.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:13 PM   #32858
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Default Re: Mayweather that beat Gatti VS Pacquaio that beat De La Hoya

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Wait...WHAT?
Pacquiao-Hatton and Mayweather-Gatti were @ 140

Pacquiao-Cotto and Mayweather-Hatton were @ 147
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:14 PM   #32859
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Default Re: Freddie Roach: Mayweather doesn't have the balls to get knocked out

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The Sweet Science is the art of hitting, while not being hit.
Get it?
That's all well and good, but he's admitted being scared of Manny. I find that inexcusable.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:16 PM   #32860
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He gets the "W", collects his $40M, and its on to the next one.
Highest grossing PPV in history.
World acknowledged p4p #1 boxer in the world.

Meanwhile Roach is suffering from premature ejaculation and shooting blanks. He is the last person to start a conversation about nuts.
You don't get recognised in history or in titles for ppv's. His obsession with money is just a reflection on society, unfortunately.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:19 PM   #32861
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Void is still running from Pac...............Void refused to fight Golovkin at 154, refused Martinez at 154 or even 150, he refused to fight Paul Williams, Margarito, you name it............
What's funny is, you say he ducked GGG but who has he beat? What's his ppv numbers looking like? Then you say he refused Sergio at 154 and even 150? Martinez was older than Oscar when he wanted to fight.. Do you see how you and others discredit Floyd for fighting a 'past prime' Oscar? Also at 150? lol Wonder what stupid name they will call him after he lose.. Canelo turned into Drainelo a few weeks after the fight..

You make excuses for the people Mayweather beat.. I don't recall Canelo ever saying he was drained but you guys do.. Mosley said he felt great.. You say he was shot.. You say Marquez lost because he went up in weight and was bloated.. Marquez landed 16% of his punches and said he'll never fight Mayweather again.. Then he goes to ko Pac.. He's ducking Peter Buckley too huh?
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:24 PM   #32862
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Manny has the better resume takes on the better fighter agreed to all the demands now he must oblige a new demand .Its clear who the ***** is !


His last name is Mayweather !
As far as who has the better resumse overall is debatable, what isn't debatable is since negotiations first took place Mayweather has consistently fought better fighters than Pacquiao, since 09 Pac doesn't have a win as good as Mayweather over Mosley or Ortiz for that matter
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:30 PM   #32863
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How did PBF know Pac was going to turn down testing? Roach said initially testing wouldn't be an issue only to later have problems with it. BTW it's not irrelevant, it's just your way to try an dismiss a point that can't be defended.
he didnt.

it doesnt matter what pac will agree to.

pedjr will always find another excuse to duck the fight, as was proven now.

pedjr tried to make venue and date as issues as well, but on both counts, pac's team agreed to his demands.

remember gbp/tr were on the way to cowboy stadium to check on jones offer. suddenly, pedjr decided the venue was mgm.

pac fought cotto in november. they were negotiating well into end of december and pac was to run for congress the next yr. elections was may. pac's team was suggesting aug/sep, iirc, post elections.

pedjr's team insisted on march, which means pac will have barely rested after the cotto fight.

pedjr was throwing shit on the wall, found something that stuck and ran with it.


if it is not one thing, it's another, as proven later in succeeding negotiations.

now pedjr wouldnt even acknowledge there was an issue on drug testing.

"we were not seeing eye to eye on terms...". his words.


edit: and this wasnt the first he pulled off a duck move. 24rhs before pac-hatton, he hurriedly signed jmm to a fight where the weight class wasnt announced.

the rest is ducking history....
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:34 PM   #32864
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pacquaio was chaseing duckyweather and he used his homemade testing as his get out of jail card

also how can a fighter come up with his own rules regarding testing ?

duckweather should leave the testing to the commission and fight this is the biggest roadblock duckweather has placed
Stuff like this is the reason why you have no credibility.

Did Pac have his own rules when he asked Rios to test? I thought Commission testing was just fine?
What about when he asked for a $10,000,000 fine for PBF coming in over weight? That's a true roadblock and a roadblock that PBF agreed to I might add.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:39 PM   #32865
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he didnt.

it doesnt matter what pac will agree to.

pedjr will always find another excuse to duck the fight, as was proven now.

pedjr tried to make venue and date as issues as well, but on both counts, pac's team agreed to his demands.

remember gbp/tr were on the way to cowboy stadium to check on jones offer. suddenly, pedjr decided the venue was mgm.

pac fought cotto in november. they were negotiating well into end of december and pac was to run for congress the next yr. elections was may. pac's team was suggesting aug/sep, iirc, post elections.

pedjr's team insisted on march, which means pac will have barely rested after the cotto fight.

pedjr was throwing shit on the wall, found something that stuck and ran with it.


if it is not one thing, it's another, as proven later in succeeding negotiations.

now pedjr wouldnt even acknowledge there was an issue on drug testing.

"we were not seeing eye to eye on terms...". his words.


edit: and this wasnt the first he pulled off a duck move. 24rhs before pac-hatton, he hurriedly signed jmm to a fight where the weight class wasnt announced.

the rest is ducking history....
How do you know? What we do know is that PBF agreed to the weight penalty the 50/50 split who would walk in first and agreed to a 14 day cut off and Pac didn't he walked away from the table to fight Clottey a fight no one demanded. Everything else is pure speculation and spin.
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