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Old 05-10-2014, 03:59 PM   #3901
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Trevor Berbick UD12 Pinklon Thomas

Potential swing rounds are in bold.

THOMAS:1,2,3,5,6,
BERBICK:4,7,8,9,10,11,12


The first is a round to watch for the Pinklon jab. Berbick should never have lost this round, but for me, the series of jabs that Pinklon landed near the end of the round represented not just the best but also the hardest punches that were landed in the round. Berbick landed good blows to the body but lots of them were skiffed or contained. Pinklon was just plunging with the jab; the addition of the right hand in the second makes it's winner less debatable. Ironically, it wasn't until he started to jab that Berbick created the openings he needed for his body punches and win a round, the fourth, demonstrating that he needed first to box Pinklon before he could begin to out-brawl him. I gave the excruciatingly close and wild fifth to Thomas, but it can easily be given to Berbick, really and I agree with Larry Merchant that Thomas was missing Angelo Dundee at around this point.

Many of the following rounds are equally close, as Thomas dominated outside, and Berbick tended to win exchanges when they go inside. That's the balance of the contest and I agree with the judges that Berbick edged it. Strength, strength of character, aggression and a superb brawling instinct won the day, by way of an astonishing second-half rally.

115-113 BERBICK
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Gerrie Coetzee D10 Pinklon Thomas

Pinklon's confidence is really shocking here. He just stands in front of Coetzee and flicks his head to ditch Coetzee's anaemic whilst trying to get across power-punches. For some reason he neglects to establish the jab that would soon be compared to that of Larry Holmes.

I thought Coetzee was winning until the eighth when Thomas was badly cut, and Thomas went crazy. The American closed the fight out on the cards to make it a draw, it's a good decision in a close, absorbing HW contest.

COETZEE:2,3,5,6,7
THOMAS:1,4,8,9,10

5-5 DRAW
This is my exact score too.
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Finally gave Floyd vs Maidana a second try and I am glad I did because my score changed

This time I had it 115-113 Mayweather but I can now understand the 116-112 score that was rendered that I thought was too wide

Maidana had rounds 1,3,4,5,12

Floyd had rounds 2,6-11

Biggest take aways were that I gave Floyd 2 and 11 this time while giving Maidana 12 so basically I changed my mind on 3 rounds

I think lots of falsehoods and folklore have been made about this fight:

Floyd choosing to go to the ropes to make this entertaining. I don't see it, Floyd goes to the ropes in lots of his fights and I think this fight he was on the ropes a lot in 1-4 mostly due to not yet being able to A) earn Maidanas respect B) Maidana had very good head movement and threw at odd angles and Floyd had a hard time timing him and was backed into the ropes C) Maidana knew how to cut off the ring lots of fighters just follow, Maidana stepped to cut Floyd off when Floyd would try to spin out and reverse Maidana

Round 4 Floyd spent some of the most time in any round on the ropes but I think that was large in part due to the cut

Next order of biz, I don't think Maidana gassed as badly as people say he did. Sure after 4 he slowed down out put wise his hands were still high, his punches still were hard, and he still had head movement. I don't think he was so gassed I think the fight just settled, Floyd adjusted and Maidana could not get off the way he did in the early rounds

If there is a round to say Maidana looked openly tired I'd say it was 9 where his mouth was open and he was dominated but in round 10 Maidana fought a very spirited round

Next misconception is Maidana landed nothing clean at all....That's an out right lie I noted Maidanas best punches Ranging from Jabs, Over Hand Rights, Left Hooks, Body punches and One pretty good inside Uppercut a punch he used a lot vs Broner but did not use a lot here...Maidana could be very ineffective but he usually landed one clean power blow and 1 or 2 more that glanced or were partially blocked but none the less got in

Perception upon second viewing

First time I had it even giving 5 of the first 6 to Maidana and one round in the second half. I think the 6-6 score is possible but 7-5 Maidana would require giving Maidana plenty of help

Round 2 is a round I see most giving Floyd and I gave it to him this time, its a close round with Floyd edging in clean connects, Maidana got some work in and mauled maybe it can be scored to him but its definitely a point of contention

Round 3, was again live I felt it was obvious and clear Maidana swung the early rounds big time and this time I thought Maidana won but that it wasn't obvious. Both men missed a lot and Maidana kind of mauled his way in and got it but it wasn't a clear round

Maidanas best round was the 5th and funny enough it was a round fought largely in the middle of the ring he never really mauled Floyd on the ropes until the last 10 seconds or so. He landed 2 very good over hand rights in the middle of the ring and used a jab high and right to the body to back Floyd to the ropes, very crafty

Round 6-8 are rounds live that I thought Floyd dominated, I think he won those rounds but watching again Maidana boxed very well in the middle and made Floyd miss and got in some of his own.. I don't like to quote stats but the stats in this round and the 10th were extremely close I do feel what Floyd connected on was better

Ultimately I'd love to watch 6,8,10 again and score I think those are rounds that I could potentially flip flop on as well as 2 and maybe 3..I think this fight has a lot of scoring possibilities for either guy

Though Maidana won the early rounds he was very ineffective and I was more impressed in him losing 6-10 but competing very well in the middle of the ring bobbing weaving and jabbing and getting more conservative with his shots and attack not just mauling...the effort in those rounds contains his improvements even in defeat it shows how far he has come and what he is capable of

Rematch?

Im not sure how it goes...On one hand Floyd destroyed Castillo in the rematch, Floyd may snuff out any of what Maidana succeeded with and dominate..Or maybe Maidana improves even further takes this experience on the big stage and finds more ways to land

I wanna study the film further score again to reach a final verdict on the score and predict a rematch
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^ nice, thoughtful post.
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JIMMY ELLIS UD12 OSCAR BONAVENA

This is a masterful performance from Ellis, who flashed the right hand over and over again right on point, torturing Bonavena with that tipsy style right on the cusp of range. The right hand was on point all night, most especially in the third when it caught the Argentine on the point of the jaw, all meet, and forced him to his haunches then the canvas.

Bonavena really didn't get to him until the sixth when a dual left-hook left him hurt, but it was Ellis who landed almost every single other meaningful punch in the round, making Oscar miss over and over again - in the seventh he got to him in a meaningful way once more though this time Bonavena held his feet.

Cut in the eighth, a minor crisis seemed to loom for Ellis, who let that round slip through his fingers and was probably out-mauled in the ninth, as per Bonavena's pre-fight plan. Looking tired, Ellis nevertheless stiffened Bonavena with a hook in the ninth. You don't want to get too carried away, but for me twice dropping Bonavena, once with either hand, dismisses notions that Ellis is a non-puncher, even if you can't quite confirm him a puncher.



ELLIS: 1,2,3,5,6,7,10,
BONAVENA: 4,8,9,11,12

7-5 Ellis, but the five-points must system the fight was fought under made him a clear winner.
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JIMMY ELLIS WPTS FLOYD PATTERSON

1: Ellis apparently had his nose broken in this round, perhaps explaining his poor performance. Very, very little to distinguish them here though, there's a huge amount of missing. Floyd's slippage means that he's not really faster than Ellis; Ellis is just as quick-handed and looks to have a similar reaction time, too. I gave this one to Ellis because I really admired the left-hand feint/right-hand lead he used, i just like that better than Patterson's "bob in". You could very arguably score this one even if you were given.

2: Lots of missing, again. It basically comes down to weighing the best punches each man lands in the round, because there's just nothing else to distinguish them - you literally have to weight the best single shots of the round. I liked Patterson's short, sharp right hand and stuck-on left-hook better than Ellis's cuffing rights and the two decent left uppercuts he lands in the opening seconds. So Patterson.

3: Strange round, but a very good one for Ellis. Patterson really isn't doing anything, he throws literally one jab. Ellis is throwing more but consistently falling short with his one-two, landing cuffing punches on the glove, or scraping the top of Patterson's dipping head, probably taking the round on activity when the clinch and Ellis throws a square right across his man proper hypotenuses punch, think Thompson KO Price the first time, and Patterson is hurt. Ellis starts doing some really, really good work on the inside, not really his game, but it's working. But all the time he's got Angelo Dundee shouting "push him off! push him off!" he wants Ellis outside jabbing. But he's missing all his jabs. Ellis does better inside. Curious.

4: In keeping with the idiom of the fight, this is a great fight for Patterson. Ellis just goes back to missing from the outside but Patterson seems to have found his range for jabs and power punches. I love the way Patterson hooks off the jab. The jab is almost a hook and the hook is almost a jab. How awful, and at that speed. Ellis was hurt in this round and is cut above the eye. Let's see if Floyd can build some momentum.

5: Close round. I'm giving this round to Patterson on the counter uppercut he threw from the ropes at thirsty seconds remaining. Other than that, more of what we had in 1 and 2, Ellis missing, not confident, Patterson looking for the single shots. Again, Ellis's best work is inside, like the sneak left hand he lands in a neutral corner when they come together. He's bigger, Patterson is old. He should rough him up and bare down in there, not wait to be stung before he punches.

6: Patterson slips for the third time in the opening seconds. I wonder if he had better boxing boots on if he would have won? He wins this round, which is an awful round for 2:40, Ellis missing, Patterson not bothering to punch, and then Patterson comes up with the old-time trademark snaking left hook in the final seconds, a beautiful punch which fully extended cuts through the bottom jaw. Ellis saw it coming and tried to lean out, but he got caught right on the end of the punch. He was hurt but probably saved himself from a knockdown/out. Patterson does some decent work in the follow up, but it's one punch that wins him the round for some daylight.

7: The referee didn't score an even round, but I can't separate them here. Ellis is just waiting, waiting, and Patterson is bob-bob-bobbing away. I thought Ellis had stolen it with a blistering one-two at about thirty seconds, but Patterson landed a handful of less excellent punches as the round wound down. I tried to give the round to Ellis, but it didn't feel write, so I scored it for Patterson, didn't feel right, so it's an even round.

8: Very boring first half of the round. Few punches but lots of missing. Patterson lands a great jab, Ellis half-lands some weak stuff but gets in a good counter-uppercut to the body, not a lot on it but it's a decent punch. Ellis scores a decent jab on ninety seconds and another right behind it. They swap misses with the lead rights, which they shouldn't be throwing. Why aren't they jabbing more? Patterson landed a skiffing right at about 15 seconds to take an Ellis round and arguably even it up. In the end, neither one of them deserves it.

9: Ellis wins the round by dominating the inside. Probably, he'll go back to missing from the outside in the next round.

10: He did, and Patterson won a crap round with two or three right hands because of it.

11: Ellis dominates the first 100 seconds of this round, he looks the best he's looked in the fight by virtue of the fact that he's finally dialled in the right hand a bit. Patterson has been slipping it by ducking or bobbing and Ellis is going more overhand and getting somewhere with that. The problem is, Patterson comes on very very strong at the end of the round, landing good punches to the body in combination with cuffing ones to the head. I'm going to go with Ellis based upon the prior domination. This is a legitimate swing round though. Could be scored either way.

12: Clear Ellis round. He's looking dominant now and far, far busier than Floyd, who looks legitimately tired. He's throwing more, landing more, and moving Patterson about the ring. Patterson is open-mouthed. Thirteenth is big.

13: Patterson dug it out God love his heart. Ellis tried to prod his way to the frame, but Patterson just dug in and hit with him, doing the flashier, faster, harder punching, including a really cool old-school flurry to Ellis's midriff. Ellis was just static enough that some of the punches scored. IF Patterson was legitimately robbed, this is the round he was robbed in. Ellis now cannot win on my card.

14: Patterson wins this one, inarguably. He's something, Floyd Patterson.

15: Satellite cuts out, so that's that. I'll call it even.

ELLIS:1,3,9,11,12,
PATTERSON:2,4,5,6,10,13,14,
EVEN:7,8,15

So I have it 7-5-3 Patterson. If Ellis wins the fifteenth he still doesn't win, and he received the only two rounds I scored but wasn't sure of, the first and the eleventh, so this is the best card I can produce for him.

Robbery?

Something very like it I think.
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Trevor Berbick UD12 Pinklon Thomas

Potential swing rounds are in bold.

THOMAS:1,2,3,5,6,
BERBICK:4,7,8,9,10,11,12


The first is a round to watch for the Pinklon jab. Berbick should never have lost this round, but for me, the series of jabs that Pinklon landed near the end of the round represented not just the best but also the hardest punches that were landed in the round. Berbick landed good blows to the body but lots of them were skiffed or contained. Pinklon was just plunging with the jab; the addition of the right hand in the second makes it's winner less debatable. Ironically, it wasn't until he started to jab that Berbick created the openings he needed for his body punches and win a round, the fourth, demonstrating that he needed first to box Pinklon before he could begin to out-brawl him. I gave the excruciatingly close and wild fifth to Thomas, but it can easily be given to Berbick, really and I agree with Larry Merchant that Thomas was missing Angelo Dundee at around this point.

Many of the following rounds are equally close, as Thomas dominated outside, and Berbick tended to win exchanges when they go inside. That's the balance of the contest and I agree with the judges that Berbick edged it. Strength, strength of character, aggression and a superb brawling instinct won the day, by way of an astonishing second-half rally.

115-113 BERBICK

But that Berbick showed that he could rise to the occasion in this.
well prepared and well condioned and he actually listened to his corner. He was a big underdog and at that time, almost everyone was buying into Pinky. Problem was Pinky was buying into everything but boxing.

Like everyone else, I thought it'd be an easy night's work for Thomas. Establish the jab and Berbick is a guy that's going to be right in front of him all night. And like we saw so many times from that era, the fighter supposed to be the star underprepared for the opponent. They don't look anything like their form of the previous fight and show up with their B game.

Meanwhile, the opponent shows up with their A game and we see an upset. The only guy back then that could win fights with his B game was Larry Holmes.

But it was a real solid effort by Berbick in there and that Futch touch sure did come through. And Thomas was real sloppy and just so basic in there. No left hook. He sure did not display much of a ring IQ--and we are talking Trevor Berbick afterall.

But Trevor himself took a page right out of Thomas' fight against him---he drops Eddie for the Tyson fight. Good call Trevor. And his tactics were to stand and trade and try outslugging Tyson early.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:16 PM   #3908
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Floyd Patteson D10 Jerry Quarry

Quarry pretty clearly out-hooked Patterson in the first with a direct style and some narrow punching out of a high guard that probably lay the groundwork for what might be the best round of Quarry's career, the second. Jerry was patient but aggressive, snaking out the left to the body and eventually the head, depositing a disorganised Patterson rather neatly - the second knockdown was technicians dream the right hand straight bought by the left-hand's persistence. It's hard to be sure if Quarry let Patterson off the hook in the following moments or if he is to be praised for his maturity, but either way, Patterson got out of the round, and with no 10 points must, he could survive on paper too. He's a god-damn survivor-type. The best action of round 3 was Quarry's, he slipped out of the corner beautifully behind a short left hook but the round itself belonged to Floyd. Snaking, aggressive.

Patterson opens a cut outside the right eye of Quarry in the fourth with that leaping left hook.

In the fifth Quarry is cut to the mouth, out-fought and out-sped by the veteran ex-champ. Some very hard body-punching arguably won a close sixth for Quarry, but it is also reasonable to score the round evenly. In a way, Patterson has tricked Quarry into following him around the ring in the old fashioned way, head to head and chest to chest where his greater experience and speed were off even greater benefit than they would be on the outside against a technically schooled fighter like Jerry. It enables Patterson to get off all kinds of punches and sense all kinds of openings that Quarry isn't yet au-fait with.

Nevertheless I felt that Quarry was exuberanting his way back into the fight in the seventh when Patterson dropped him like a steer at the very end of the round - this may have re-augmented the fight in Patterson's favour; I only scored one more round for Quarry, the ninth.

Another robbery? Stroning it a bit, but I reckon Patterson was the better man without too much room for doubt.

PATTERSON:3,4,5,7,8,10.
QUARRY:1,2,6,9.

6-4 PATTERSON.
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JERRY QUARRY MD12 FLOYD PATTERSON

Patterson clearly outpunched Quarry in the first for me, but he got badly hurt in the second by an absolutley beautiful combination from Quarry. It may not have been the best round in the fight though, after Patterson, having tried to feint Quarry with his head, then tried to feint him with his head again, just up and smashed him in the f*cking face with a lead-right, kind of disgusted

Dropped again in the fourth, Patterson has some work to do to box back, especially as Quarry looks better than he did last time - Patterson is forced to take more chances, lunge more, trust his speed more. Quarry looks relaxed about it but also tires quickly, and seems strangely lethargic in the middle rounds, letting Patterson back in.

Patterson, if he lets it slip, lets it slip in the eleventh, where he drops the narrowest of rounds to a tired fighter that probably could have been outworked by a committed attack.


QUARRY:2,3,4,6,9,11.
PATTERSON:1,5,7,8,10,12.

6-6 A DRAW

So allowing for the scoring system of the day, I think Quarry is a reasonable winner on the strength of the knockdowns.
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Larry Holmes SD Ken Norton 15

A great fight that was kind of three fights in one. The first 6, the next 6, then the last 3 rounds.

Fought at a walking pace Holmes kept Norton at the end of his jab over much of the first 6 rounds. Norton pressed Larry with excelent pressure but was looking to walk him onto a right hand but Larry would change direction just before Norton could get off. On occasion Ken would jab well with Larry but Holmes would double his up and dance away when things got close. Larry would have the last say on an exchange too. By round 4 Ken had a sore eye and forehead from one twos and jabs. Larry teed off on him when Ken got too close. Ken might score with a heavy right hand or single counter hooks that were more telling than anything larry would land but he would wait for these openings and he was getting outscored orchestrating these openings. however, Ken was forcing Larry to rush and this meant Larry would be forced to defend bis personal space more and more but this would tire him over the next six rounds. Until now Larry had won these rounds but was hounded at hunted all the way.

The next six rounds, from 7-12 Larry began to fade. From round 4 Larry had begun to dance and run out the last 30 seconds or so of a round for a breather because once on his toes Norton would take a break from following him around so closely and from round 7 this could start at any time Larry became uncomfortable. Ken began to reach Larry with jabs himself but would mostly look to cut off his retreat with looping shots. Norton was more desperate now so he would throw two at a time now. Round 8 he managed to get Holmes on the rope for a moment but that was after Larry had begun the round very well with a salvo of fast one twos. Round 10 he was out working Holmes for the first time and Larry by then was looking to just stay away, the authority had gone out of his jab and he was running out of space. in round 11 Larry was only using his left. only in round 12 did Larry give up looking to run, he began to stand his ground. This was a turning point although it was an even and gruling round.

Round 13 was a street fight and Larry won. Ken was open mouthed and taking a beating at the bell. The last two rounds were back and forth. Real, real wild exciting stuff, at times both were defenceless and landing bombs. Norton took the 14th. Larry came back well after Ken got on top at the start of the last round and I think Larry landed cleaner consecutive shots in the final exchange before the bell than Ken had at any point of the round when he hit Holmes.


Holmes 144-143.

7,6,2

Larry won rounds 1,2,3,4,5, 13, 15, Ken won 7,8,9,10,11,13 with rounds 6 and 12 even.

I think Holmes showed more superiority over the first 6 rounds. The next 6 rounds were not so clear and Holmes could of had a share of them where as the first 6 I could not say that about Ken. The last 3 were a war and Larry perhaps shaded those.

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Tim Witherspoon SD12 Renaldo Snipes

Snipes moves beautifully in the first two rounds, flicking out a jab and shading both frames on defence (he ditches some punches beautifully) and that nipping punch, Witherspoon in steady pursuit. The referee is overinvolved in the third IMO, he's got no business demanding Snipes change his style and actually he may be in part to blame for the first punch Witherspoon lands in earnest. But I think also Snipes was beginning to lag just a bit because he really really was on his bicycle.

Investing in the body in the fourth was a bit of tactical necessity rather than strategy in the fourth but it won Spoon the round for me. By the sixth, Snipes had obviously decided it was time to fight and it was Witherspoon who looked a little tired with his back to the ropes as Snipes found punches. Witherspoon's solution is non-specific, he's just sort of tracking Snipes down and "doing boxing." It makes things difficult for him when Snipes changes up, which is the case in six and seven, re-establishing his lead. Witherspoon did catch up to him in the eighth, but again, it's just by being slightly superior physically, catching up to Snipes and hitting him with a really, really hard right hand and then another one at the bell. Take either one of those punches out, and it's a Snipes round...this would leave Witherspoon needing a KO for the win.

Witherspoon again came close to taking away a brilliant ninth round in which he landed the best punches, but Snipes edged back with the superior workrate in a round I just couldn't split them in. Witherspoon had the heart and balls to go straight for the kill in the tenth which makes him a worthy winner, though I'd have no argument with the draw.

Tell you what though - Snipes out-jabbed him.

Witherspoon looked mature for a fighter of his experience.

WITHERSPOON:3,4,5,8,10
SNIPES:1,2,6,7,
EVEN:9,

5-4-1 WITHERSPOON
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Getting into a habit of scoring all the recent fights I missed live

Scored Garcia vs Herrera 115-113

Garcia winning 1,2,3,6,8,10,11

Herrera taking 4,5,7,9,12

I don't think this fight was a robbery, it was just very hard to score

I think if I watched it 10 times I would score the first 6 rounds differently each time

I think had Danny edge out the close rounds based on his harder connects but Herrera was very busy and made Garcia look uncomfortable and ordinary at times

Close fight, no robbery but could probably be scored in many variations.
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Watched the third Dick Tiger-Gene Fullmer bout from 1963 last night. I had always wondered what transpired there, as the "KO 7" result I'd merely read about in magazines and books seems so abrupt and seemingly inexplicable beside the results of the other two fights, and Fullmer's career as a whole. I wasn't necessarily looking for that fight on youtube, but was happy to find it as it would finally answer some questions.

The answer was that Fullmer just got whipped. This was the tail end of his career anyway, but he seemed tentative in the beginning as he attempted to ward off Tiger with his pawing jab. Didn't work. Tiger just seemed so much stronger than Fullmer here, who ceded ground to the champion while trying to dance away a bit and counterpunch. This wasn't Fullmer's game, and he just got hammered.

Part of the problem I saw for him here was that Fullmer was always a weird, awkward puncher who threw strange punches from a variety of angles, and usually from the outside in. Tiger, fighting so beautifully within himself yet also being very aggressive, simply came inside those wide, swinging things Fullmer tried; he popped him with hard jabs, ripped him with uppercuts, and especially short left hooks, which had Fullmer against the ropes on more than one occasion.

One was reminded of not just the physical strength Tiger was always known for, but also his superb balance, with the center of gravity low, the knees bent, ready to spring forward.......just a very difficult guy to meet in the trenches and do anything with because of those two factors.

Fullmer's handlers wisely called it off after the 7th round, as their man had lost every round up to that point, and was starting to show signs of being badly affected by Tiger's shots, plus he was bleeding badly from a gash on the right eye.
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Ernie Terrell UD10 Gerhard Zech

Terrell is mad aggressive in the first, bowling and rushing Zech to the canvas with a combination of dirty tactics and rambling offence. He was a crazy man back in the day. A little right-hand happy, he looks tired in the third and he didn't grab the third on my card until the final ten seconds of the round. Zech has found his range a bit and lands two sparkling one-two combos while Terrell is trying to keep control of the German with feints and holding.

It looked like Zech might actually win the fifth, until Terrell landed the best punch of the fight so far, a jarring right hand that stunned Zech. It's a strange punch. He sometimes ****s it and wings it, he sometimes just lumps it in there, it's never ever normal looking even when it is a part of the 1-2. Sometimes he throws it across himself, almost thumb first, whilst he stands to Zech's side, i've never really seen a punch as unruly remain affective. Terrell was certainly no technician but does it ever work for him. Anyway or no, general rough-housing on Ernie's part saw the round taken out of his hands and placed in the hands of Zech by the ref.

Zech legitimately won the sixth though, hurting Terrell with a left hand, forcing a rubber-legged Terrell to hold on as he appeared to be badly hurt for a few seconds and then rather wobbly for a half minute after. Zech couldn't take advantage though, and Terrell ended the round swinging. He probably doesn't re-gather a measure of control until a mostly featureless eighth, though.

Zech has a very good left-hand.

TERRELL:1,2,3,4,8,9,10
ZECH:5,6,7,

7-3 TERRELL
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Default Re: the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Watched Ken Norton vs Jimmy Young for the first time today. I had heard it wasn`t a good fight at all that`s why I never watched it till today but I must say i was pleasantly surprised I really enjoyed the fight. I had Norton winning the fight 8-7, I thought Young won the first 3 rounds then Norton won the next 6, Young took the 10th and Norton took the 11th, Young won the next three after that and Norton won the 15th to win the fight.
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