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Old 06-07-2014, 01:15 PM   #1
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Default Archie Moore W 15 Nino Valdes Final Eliminator for Marcianos Crown

"In the rough battle, referee Jim Braddock took one round away from each battler because of low blows. There were no knockdowns but each was knocked back onto his heels several times during the exciting slugging match. Archie Moore was bleeding from the nose and mouth at the finish, and his left eye also was swollen. But he could see very well. Nino Valdes forced the fighting in nearly every round and tried to impale his bobbing-weaving opponent with long left jabs and whistling rights. In the 13th session, Nino's left eye was closed tightly shut and he fought on half-blinded and fatigued. Moore's superiority in the 14th and 15th rounds clinched the fight and gave Moore his 20th straight victory." -United Press


Scorecard: Jim Braddock (referee and sole judge) - 8-5-2 Moore
Unofficial UP scorecard - 8-6-1 Moore

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Post fight comments

"Moore's showing tonight was so impressive that the heavyweight champion must defend against him, possibly at New York in September." -Truman Gibson, IBC secretary

"Burglary! They used this fight to get Nino out of the heavyweight picture." -Bobby Gleason, Valdes' manager

"Valdes died in the last couple of rounds." -Archie Moore


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Old 06-07-2014, 01:16 PM   #2
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Old 06-07-2014, 01:36 PM   #3
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Moore beats Nino 10 out of 10 times....nice post
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:50 PM   #4
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"Moore's showing tonight was so impressive that the heavyweight champion must defend against him, possibly at New York in September." -Truman Gibson, IBC secretary
Is that the same Truman Gibson who told Nick toches that the marciano v Moore fight was fixed?
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Old 06-07-2014, 03:20 PM   #5
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"In the rough battle, referee Jim Braddock took one round away from each battler because of low blows. There were no knockdowns but each was knocked back onto his heels several times during the exciting slugging match. Archie Moore was bleeding from the nose and mouth at the finish, and his left eye also was swollen. But he could see very well. Nino Valdes forced the fighting in nearly every round and tried to impale his bobbing-weaving opponent with long left jabs and whistling rights. In the 13th session, Nino's left eye was closed tightly shut and he fought on half-blinded and fatigued. Moore's superiority in the 14th and 15th rounds clinched the fight and gave Moore his 20th straight victory." -United Press


Scorecard: Jim Braddock (referee and sole judge) - 8-5-2 Moore
Unofficial UP scorecard - 8-6-1 Moore

Attendance - 10,800
Gate - $102,678

Post fight comments

"Moore's showing tonight was so impressive that the heavyweight champion must defend against him, possibly at New York in September." -Truman Gibson, IBC secretary

"Burglary! They used this fight to get Nino out of the heavyweight picture." -Bobby Gleason, Valdes' manager

"Valdes died in the last couple of rounds." -Archie Moore

Excellent posting, good to see Mr Q online again.
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Old 06-07-2014, 04:07 PM   #6
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Old 06-07-2014, 04:11 PM   #7
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Is that the same Truman Gibson who told Nick toches that the marciano v Moore fight was fixed?
It is the same Truman Gibson who later said that Nick Toches completely misquoted him.

*I think it ridiculous to think the prideful Moore would have considered dumping a championship fight after working himself up over so many years.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:31 PM   #8
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It is the same Truman Gibson who later said that Nick Toches completely misquoted him.

*I think it ridiculous to think the prideful Moore would have considered dumping a championship fight after working himself up over so many years.
Moore got up too many times for it to be a fixed fight. It has to have been an incredible misquote. .
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Moore was a great fighter and in the day many thought to be a very dangerous opponent for Marciano but Marciano gave Archie a horrific beating despite the flash KD...film does not lie and Archie was a freak of a man but talented as they come
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I saw some of Valdes in other fights. He's a bit of an under achiever, and should have been more active during his fights.
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I saw some of Valdes in other fights. He's a bit of an under achiever, and should have been more active during his fights.
I have never seen a film of the Charles fight.

The Jackson fight shows him pushing a hurt Jackson down a couple of times to win on the three knockdown rule. Not all that impressive.

Valdes did blow out a few second-tier guys and outpoint a few others,

but he looks mediocre against Moore, Machen, Satterfield, Baker, and the other top men on the films I have seen.
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