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Old 08-15-2014, 04:12 PM   #31
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Answer me this: How do you expect someone to learn how to throw a hook if they do not know where their feet placement is supposed to be...???
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Get the boxer in the correct stance (with correct foot placement) and learn him to throw the hook.

Answer this for me:

How can you expect a boxer to learn proper footwork if he has no understanding of the end goal (i.e. in this case - punching correctly)?

How does he fine tune his movement and positioning when he does not understand the position he needs to be to throw a punch correctly?
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Simple answer:

Get the boxer in the correct stance (with correct foot placement) and learn him to throw the hook.

Answer this for me:

How can you expect a boxer to learn proper footwork if he has no understanding of the end goal (i.e. in this case - punching correctly)?

The boxer will be taught in a step-by-step instruction (beginning with foot work) then moving up to hand placement (head placement, etc). Any real trainer will advise you that footwork should be the first thing an up-and-coming boxer should learn. Without proper footwork training, the boxer can stumble, trip over his own feet, become off balance...all leading to possibly being knocked down or knocked out.

How does he fine tune his movement and positioning when he does not understand the position he needs to be to throw a punch correctly?
By being trained properly. You don't hand car keys to a 16 year old and expect them to know how to be a NASCAR or Formula One driver...it takes practice, training, learning the basic fundamentals.

When I get to the hand positioning with my boxers, I show in a slow motion, step by step on where their hands, head, shoulder, legs, feet should be. Then they must demonstrate the proper technique both in slow motion and full speed so other trainers, as well as myself, can critique them, give them pointers /advice on what they are doing correctly and what areas they need to correct.
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By being trained properly. You don't hand car keys to a 16 year old and expect them to know how to be a NASCAR or Formula One driver...it takes practice, training, learning the basic fundamentals.

When I get to the hand positioning with my boxers, I show in a slow motion, step by step on where their hands, head, shoulder, legs, feet should be. Then they must demonstrate the proper technique both in slow motion and full speed so other trainers, as well as myself, can critique them, give them pointers /advice on what they are doing correctly and what areas they need to correct.
For the record. I don't disagree with the idea of teaching footwork before punching technique. I just don't think it matters either way.

In the early stages of training a boxer, we simply introduce each skill in isolation. I don't believe it makes any measurable difference to a boxers progression if footwork is introduced before punching technique or vice versa.

The issue I have with your post is that you appear to dismiss a particular gym because the trainer decided to teach punching technique before footwork. This says nothing about the quality of the gym and/or trainer.
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For the record. I don't disagree with the idea of teaching footwork before punching technique. I just don't think it matters either way.

In the early stages of training a boxer, we simply introduce each skill in isolation. I don't believe it makes any measurable difference to a boxers progression if footwork is introduced before punching technique or vice versa.

The issue I have with your post is that you appear to dismiss a particular gym because the trainer decided to teach punching technique before footwork. This says nothing about the quality of the gym and/or trainer.
With all due respect, you must be from England. I know alot of England boxing trainers that practice the punch technique before footwork theory. I have nothing against it, I just think its wrong on many levels.

To each their own I suppose. So are you a trainer or boxer...???
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With all due respect, you must be from England. I know alot of England boxing trainers that practice the punch technique before footwork theory. I have nothing against it, I just think its wrong on many levels.

To each their own I suppose. So are you a trainer or boxer...???
Fair enough mate.

Yes, I'm from England. I'm an amateur coach but we do have a couple of professionals who I help train. I boxed as an amateur in my teens (still train / spar).

Where do you train out of? Who are you training? PM me if you prefer.

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Fair enough mate.

Yes, I'm from England. I'm an amateur coach but we do have a couple of professionals who I help train. I boxed as an amateur in my teens (still train / spar).

Where do you train out of? Who are you training? PM me if you prefer.

Rich.

I retired from amateur boxing, I did fight Jeremy Williams as an amatuer twice, lost 10-4 & 13-6.



I train in Douglasville Georgia.

Ive worked with the following boxers:

Darnell Boone
Sharif Kemp
Ebo Elder
Wilie Williams "Black Steel"
Derrick Kaisershot (Died after pro debut)
Keith McKnight
Gabe Brown (on the Kevin Johnson-harold Sconiers undercard)
Kevin Johnson (Been his cutman for 8 years)
Calvin Brock
James Robinson
Max Alexander (Against Roy Jones Jr)
Obed Sullivan
Robert Allen (later in his career)
Keandre Leatherwood
Willie Walker
Travis Walker
Maurice Harris
Faruq Saleem
Bobby Gunn

Among working many corners for boxers in the Southeastern United States
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