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Old 06-11-2008, 02:32 PM   #16
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What if the first Julio Cesar Chavez/Meldrick Taylor fight is allowed to contunue? the scores would be 115-112, 112-115 and 116-111 for Taylor.
Do they rematch right away who wins? what long term effects would it have on their careers?
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Losing to better fighters always helps. Baer losing to Braddock takes away from Baer's rep.

Wlad losing to Sanders takes away from Wlad's rep, but at least Sanders was an upset minded puncher with fast hands and a different style. I tend to beleive if Wlad had Steward with him he 1 ) Doesn't take this fight and picks someone else, or 2 ) comes in better prepared with clinching skills if needed.

In both cases, I think the favorites underestimated their opponents, especially Wlad. Baer does not seem to try hard enough to win. Sometimes I think Baer vs Braddock was a fixed fight.
All good points, except I will make one comment on Klitschko vs Sanders. Wlad's people tried for months to get a worthy opponent in the ring for a decent matchup. It was only after 10 fighters had rejected the offer, that Corrie Sanders was approached with the opportunity. Had E-Steward been on Wlad's payroll, I'm not sure if it would have changed this fight happening. It is possible though that Wlad may have fought differently against Sanders though.
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What if the first Julio Cesar Chavez/Meldrick Taylor fight is allowed to contunue? the scores would be 115-112, 112-115 and 116-111 for Taylor.
Do they rematch right away who wins? what long term effects would it have on their careers?
I'll say they have a rematch within a year and Chavez wins.

While people exaggerate how much Taylor was ruined from that fight alone, it's true that Taylor wasn't the same after that fight.

One person who is surely not complaining about the stoppage is Frankie Randall.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:33 AM   #19
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What if the first Julio Cesar Chavez/Meldrick Taylor fight is allowed to contunue? the scores would be 115-112, 112-115 and 116-111 for Taylor.
Do they rematch right away who wins? what long term effects would it have on their careers?
Taylor stays at 140, which makes a huge difference. He'd probably defend against Chavez in a rematch, there was plenty of money in that option and Don King would definently want it. Who knows who wins the rematch.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:44 AM   #20
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1967 Liston gets invited to WBA tournament, wins it, then instead of Jimmy Ellis fighting Joe, Sonny proceeds to bounce Frazier off the canvas ala Foreman.

Ali returns in 1970, Liston says "frap this"...and retires.
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:18 AM   #21
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1967 Liston gets invited to WBA tournament, wins it, then instead of Jimmy Ellis fighting Joe, Sonny proceeds to bounce Frazier off the canvas ala Foreman.

Ali returns in 1970, Liston says "frap this"...and retires.
This could mean no Ali/Frazir fights which would mean while Ali would still be as popular as he is he wouldn't be ratted as high as he is now.
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