16 man fantasy tournament...

[cross_trainer]

Matching the best from the early days of MMA against the best of modern times. Who wins under UFC 1 style rules? Matchups are not prime-for-prime, but rather pre-1997 vs. today.


Tournament Bracket

Royce Gracie
Antonio Nogueira

Ken Shamrock
Aleksander Emelianenko

Marco Ruas
Josh Barnett

Dan Severn
Mirko Crocop

Oleg Taktarov
Randy Couture

Don Frye (early version)
Gabriel Gonzaga

Rickson Gracie
Andrei Arlovski

Renzo Gracie
Tim Sylvia (sorry)





Fedor has been deliberately left out here, to make room for others.

[Dostoevsky]

Royce Gracie
Antonio Nogueira - Too big

Ken Shamrock - Despite being brother of Fedor,Aleks has a woeful ground game
Aleksander Emelianenko

Marco Ruas
Josh Barnett - again, too big and too skilled

Dan Severn
Mirko Crocop - Dan is far too limited, even for CC, this is a replay of the Rizzo fight.

Oleg Taktarov
Randy Couture - Again too big and too skilled

Don Frye (early version)
Gabriel Gonzaga (Not seen enough of Gonzaga yet)

Rickson Gracie - AA was petrified by going to the ground against Werdum and won a boring decision. Werdum was far too timid himself, Rickson would be far more aggressive get AA too the ground and submit him.
Andrei Arlovski

Renzo Gracie
Tim Sylvia (sorry) - As much as I dislike that fat ****ing piece of turd slime, I feel that TIMMAH is too big for Renzo and too heavy, Renzo is nowhere near as big and strong as Randy.

[cross_trainer]

Originally Posted by Iron Duke

Royce Gracie
Antonio Nogueira - Too big

Ken Shamrock - Despite being brother of Fedor,Aleks has a woeful ground game
Aleksander Emelianenko

Marco Ruas
Josh Barnett - again, too big and too skilled

Dan Severn
Mirko Crocop - Dan is far too limited, even for CC, this is a replay of the Rizzo fight.

Oleg Taktarov
Randy Couture - Again too big and too skilled

Don Frye (early version)
Gabriel Gonzaga (Not seen enough of Gonzaga yet)

Rickson Gracie - AA was petrified by going to the ground against Werdum and won a boring decision. Werdum was far too timid himself, Rickson would be far more aggressive get AA too the ground and submit him.
Andrei Arlovski

Renzo Gracie
Tim Sylvia (sorry) - As much as I dislike that fat ****ing piece of turd slime, I feel that TIMMAH is too big for Renzo and too heavy, Renzo is nowhere near as big and strong as Randy.

Who wins the second round, assuming that Don can pull off a win against a still-inexperienced Gonzaga in the first round?

[ufoalf]

Royce Gracie
Antonio Nogueira

Ken Shamrock
Aleksander Emelianenko

Marco Ruas
Josh Barnett

Dan Severn
Mirko Crocop

Oleg Taktarov
Randy Couture

Don Frye (early version)
Gabriel Gonzaga

Rickson Gracie
Andrei Arlovski

Renzo Gracie
Tim Sylvia

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Antonio Nogueira
Aleksander Emelianenko

Josh Barnett
Mirko Crocop

Randy Couture
Gabriel Gonzaga

Rickson Gracie(can swing either way)
Tim Sylvia

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Antonio Nogueira(today's nog won't win)
Mirko Crocop

Gabriel Gonzaga
Tim Sylvia

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Mirko Crocop
Gabriel Gonzaga


Yup, i think Gonzaga will whoop him again and will be smart enough not to get clocked by a LHK.

[ufoalf]

Royce Gracie
Antonio Nogueira

Ken Shamrock
Aleksander Emelianenko

Marco Ruas
Josh Barnett

Dan Severn
Mirko Crocop

Oleg Taktarov
Randy Couture

Don Frye (early version)
Gabriel Gonzaga

Rickson Gracie
Andrei Arlovski

Renzo Gracie
Tim Sylvia

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Antonio Nogueira
Aleksander Emelianenko

Josh Barnett
Mirko Crocop

Randy Couture
Gabriel Gonzaga

Rickson Gracie(can swing either way)
Tim Sylvia

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Antonio Nogueira(not today's nog)
Mirko Crocop

Gabriel Gonzaga
Tim Sylvia

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Mirko Crocop
Gabriel Gonzaga


Yup, i think Gonzaga will whoop him again and will be smart enough not to get clocked by a LHK.

Looking at it kinda weird seeing Gonzaga win but i think its more about people he got matched up with.

[Beebs]

[Tournament Bracket

Royce Gracie
Antonio Nogueira - Better at everything Royce does than Royce, and then better at everything else as well.

Ken Shamrock
Aleksander Emelianenko - Much better stand up, and enough ground skill to at least stay out of subs.

Marco Ruas
Josh Barnett - Better at almost everything, and enough experience against lowkicks to not make them a threat

Dan Severn
Mirko Crocop This is a close one, Dan has the size and ability to get it to the ground, but a Prime CroCop is a very advanced fighter even on the ground, and has a good enough sprawl to stay standing for some of the match, which would probably be enough.

Oleg Taktarov
Randy Couture - Pretty easy call on this one

Don Frye (early version) - Upset, but possible with Fryes Wrestling and boxing, would need to see more of Napao's takedowns to pick him for sure, but he could very well pull it off.
Gabriel Gonzaga

Rickson Gracie
Andrei Arlovski - Rickson didn't have nearly enough takedown skill, add in a reach advantage and large weight advantage, makes it a pretty easy pick.

Renzo Gracie
Tim Sylvia (sorry) - At best for Renzo it turns out to be Monson vs Sylvia part 2 with Renzo looking for the takedown and not getting it, at worse it ends up with a KO from standing or guard.

Round 2

Nogueria - Would eventually wear down Aleks and sub him, like Aleks' fight with Werdum.
Aleksander

Barnett
CroCop - Already watched this 3 times, doesnt look good for Barnett.

Don Frye
Randy Couture - A better version of Frye in every way really

Arlovski
Sylvia - Won 2 of 3, and has Arlovski gunshy.

Round 3

Nogueira
CroCop - Nog looks too far gone at this point and CroCops become a better fighter, despite the loss against Gonzaga.

Randy Couture - Already saw it, won't change.
Tim Sylvia

Final

Randy Couture - Avoids the big shot, gets the takedowns, wears him down, eventually getting the TKO
CroCop