Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-26-2007, 05:36 PM   #16
MrFoFody
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 976
vCash: 9308
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

Yes people tend to overrate Bowe based on him defeating Holyfield. I guess you can say Bowe was Holyfields Douglas. Decent skills, power, stamina when motivated but never truly had the fire. He was never truly a great fighter, just look at how an equally big man with skills(Golota) handed him back to back beatings from which he never recovered. And I don't want to hear that Bowe was "past it" because those two fights happened within a years time of handily defeating Holyfield (TKO. If he would have fought Foreman, I would expect Bowe to try and go toe to toe as that was all he knew. He may have had a jab but his desire to brawl would overcome him and he would be there for Foreman to land. And if Golota had the power to drop him, Foreman would surely KO him.
MrFoFody is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 07-26-2007, 05:40 PM   #17
hobgoblin
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 405
vCash: 1000
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

Three solid criteria for being a great fighter: (1) having the skills and physical attributes to be a great fighter (2) beating a great fighter (3) showing the strategic / courageous mentality to be a champion

Bowe showed all 3 and he really hit it with (2). beating prime holyfield is a BIG deal. no one but bowe could do it. even tyson couldn't beat a past his prime holy.

bowe was definitely a great fighter. big george needs to avoid the big 3 - old george would not be able to outjab bowe - who yes did like to fight inside - but he could be outside too. great outside fighter would outdo bowe - but not old george.
hobgoblin is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2007, 09:00 PM   #18
Muchmoore
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
vCash:
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

Bowe wins this by decision. He gets wobbled maybe a few times but takes it by clear UD.
 Top
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2007, 10:10 PM   #19
rekcutnevets
Black Sash
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: InYourMouth, NC
Posts: 6,552
vCash: 1000
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

At first, I thought Bowe's youth and work rate would be a factor in this fight. After taking a moment to watch it in my mind, something different played out.

Bowe is not quick on his feet. He may walk around, but how often do you see him on his toes? Holyfield stood flatfooted against Bowe in the first fight. Holyfield barely won the 2nd, and he fought a smart fight that time. The difference is, Holyfield cannot push Bowe around. George can.

Bowe's jab would not be a huge factor against George. Bowe's jab is overrated. Holyfield, who was shorter, could out jab him. Golata could out jab him. I don't know about George being able to dance around and match jabs with Bowe, but George walking to a flat footed fighter behind a jab is different. It's not like George is going to stand in ring center and jab with Bowe. George is going to come forward behind his jab, like an army using a battle ram to break a gate. He will wobble Bowe, at times, once he is on the inside.

The problem for Foreman is going to be how tough Bowe is when he gets to him. Foreman will be able to get Bowe's attention, maybe even make him "do the dance." Bowe was very tough, though. Remember the 2nd fight with Golata? Golata was the one trying to quit on his stool shortly after dropping Bowe. Had it not been for Bowe's 2nd fight with Golata, I would have sworn Holyfield just couldn't stop Bowe in their 3rd fight because Evander was tired. I have since changed my mind. Bowe had a ton of heart inside the ring. He just didn't have a great work ethic in the gym for every fight, I suppose.

Foreman would get to Bowe at times, take Bowe's jab away, and push Bowe around on the inside. Bowe would just be too active for the old man.

Bowe by decision. I almost talked myself out of it, but I eventually worked myself back to my original thought.
rekcutnevets is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 09:19 AM   #20
fists of fury
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: March for Revenge
Posts: 6,390
vCash: 2137
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

Against the better fighters of the division, Foreman's lack of speed was his achilles heel.
It would be no different here.
If the stamina challenged and chinny Tommy Morrison could outbox Foreman, Bowe would have a field day with the old man.
fists of fury is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 12:00 PM   #21
bigG
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: wherever my mind takes me
Posts: 789
vCash: 1000
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

just as i feel tysons style is made for a big george victory......ahem.......stands back, ducks....i feel that bowe is hand made to win a competitive at times match with hard punches from both guys....both may be stunned in this match up, particularly when bowe deviates from his hit n run game plan..which he would first time he got tagged...bowe had a tendency to brawl, but i think his superior handspeed and infighting even give him the edge over big g here.....bowe by close but unanimous decision or late rounds tko......
bigG is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 02:06 PM   #22
4eyes
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 252
vCash: 1000
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

for some reason I like George in this one if not then Bowe in a suprisingly competitive SD
4eyes is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2007, 08:13 AM   #23
DamonD
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Tavistock, England
Posts: 7,150
vCash: 1000
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fists of fury
Against the better fighters of the division, Foreman's lack of speed was his achilles heel.
It would be no different here.
If the stamina challenged and chinny Tommy Morrison could outbox Foreman, Bowe would have a field day with the old man.
Fair enough, but then Morrison fought in a way against Foreman that Bowe would never, and perhaps could never do.

For all the plaudits of his boxing ability, Bowe was never a stick 'n' move guy. He liked to go into the trenches and look to knock guys out, rather than do what might be less exciting but smarter.

For me, it's whether Old Foreman can absorb enough damage to be able to get his own licks in. He showed big durability during his 'second career', but on the other hand you're not gonna be allowed to continue if your eyes are swollen shut...
DamonD is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2007, 08:18 AM   #24
MrSmall
Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 73
vCash: 1000
Default Re: George Foreman(1991) vs. Riddick Bowe(1992)

Bowe UD
MrSmall is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013