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Old 08-01-2007, 05:46 PM   #76
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what if he bites you,or pokes your eyes?
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:43 PM   #77
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listen if i have him in a front choke and he grabs my balls por bites them then i will choke him out so he stops. if i have an armbar and he bites me then he will have a broken arm and i will win anyway. if i have him in a choke and he stabs my eyes then i will again just choke him out
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:12 PM   #78
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Another thought: Tyson's supposed one punch knockout of Mitch Green in a streetfight (a professional boxer trained to take punches) would argue that the one magical punch IS possible under the right "street" circumstances.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:22 PM   #79
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listen if i have him in a front choke and he grabs my balls por bites them then i will choke him out so he stops. if i have an armbar and he bites me then he will have a broken arm and i will win anyway. if i have him in a choke and he stabs my eyes then i will again just choke him out

haha, ok buddy.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:26 PM   #80
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haha, ok buddy.
I think its a rather reasonable response, if youve got somebody in a position where you can incapacitate them, and they attack you, that you would go for the gusto and finish them quicker, whether it be breaking a limb or choking them unconscious or to death.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:32 PM   #81
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I think its a rather reasonable response, if youve got somebody in a position where you can incapacitate them, and they attack you, that you would go for the gusto and finish them quicker, whether it be breaking a limb or choking them unconscious or to death.

Just like if someone is going to punch me I am going to block it or slip it.

Of course you are going to try and do that, but it is a lot easier said than done. Especially if you are fighting someone bigger/ a lot stronger.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:36 PM   #82
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also its a lot harder to set something up when fighting dirty, try to do anything after you have been eye gouged hard as shit. You wont be able to see my ****ing arm, so good luck and trying to lock in a armbar then.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:59 PM   #83
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also its a lot harder to set something up when fighting dirty, try to do anything after you have been eye gouged hard as shit. You wont be able to see my ****ing arm, so good luck and trying to lock in a armbar then.
Gordeau gouged Nakai to the point where he was blind in one eye, and Nakai still won. It's conceivable that he'd be able to "feel" his way to victory anyway.

This is getting so abstract that we might as well be playing chess, though.
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Old 08-04-2007, 12:01 AM   #84
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Gordeau gouged Nakai to the point where he was blind in one eye, and Nakai still won. It's conceivable that he'd be able to "feel" his way to victory anyway.

This is getting so abstract that we might as well be playing chess, though.
exactly, joe son took some shots in the nuts and kept going. Anything can happen, but it usually doesnt. Just like someone untrained can throw a knee out when you rush in for a takedown and kill you.

But I agree with you, especially the 2nd part.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:08 PM   #85
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also its a lot harder to set something up when fighting dirty, try to do anything after you have been eye gouged hard as shit. You wont be able to see my ****ing arm, so good luck and trying to lock in a armbar then.
The scenario was that you already had the person in the hold, so thats what I was going with.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:15 PM   #86
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UFC/MMA fighters tend to have very little punching ability. Tyson would demolish him before he could take him down and even if he took him down Tyson was too strong and the biting would put a damper on that pansy.

I hate this sort of thing too. Tyson had made loads of money at that point, was a heavyweight champion and people think he ducked some guy who most people don't even care about. Why fight him in a street fight?
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UFC/MMA fighters tend to have very little punching ability. Tyson would demolish him before he could take him down and even if he took him down Tyson was too strong and the biting would put a damper on that pansy.

I hate this sort of thing too. Tyson had made loads of money at that point, was a heavyweight champion and people think he ducked some guy who most people don't even care about. Why fight him in a street fight?
And worse yet, there's the accusation that Joe Louis was too cowardly to fight Helio Gracie--whom Louis had never heard of and who probably didn't send him a challenge anyway.
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