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Old 10-05-2008, 06:58 PM   #16
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couldnt agree more. that cunt had it coming
Dude you're an asshole! Nobody deserves that, not even George W. Bush!
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:32 PM   #17
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For all you saying he had it coming, does his family deserve to suffer to. They've bankrupted themselves and work multiple jobs for G-Man.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:41 PM   #18
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Jerry Quarry making a comeback in 1992 at the age of 47 to get beaten silly by some guy who was 3-4-1. Quarry died of dementia about 7 years later.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:00 PM   #19
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I am curious, what`s McClellan`s story with regards to dogs?
He bred dogs for dog fighting, took part in dog fighting and bought non fighting dogs so his dogs could "spar" with them, Taping their mouths shut so as not to harm his own dogs. Not very nice i agree, in fact i ****ing hate dogfighting, but its not exactly hitler material is it? No-way he deserved what happened to him and infact i bet there are people who have posted on this thread slamming him,that are supporters of boxers who have done a lot worse things than him in their life. There are Boxers who have killed,attempted to kill,raped,robbed and battered people who get more respect here than him.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:02 AM   #20
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Thats tragic what happened to Perez, never read that before thanks for posting it.
Great story on Victor (Young) Perez.
We can remember him as a flyweight champion.
He fought numerous bouts between 1928 and 1938
including Frankie Genaro, Emile Pladner, Al Brown, and others.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:18 AM   #21
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Apparenlty Roshii Wells and Julian Letterlough lives ment nothing to you people right? I wonder if these 2 black warriors were mexicans more of you would of mentioned them.
Thanks for mentioning Roshii Wells and Julian Letterlough.

Looking at the life and times of Roshii Wells, there are a few stories
to tell such as his rise to Olympic contention and his pro fights.

It would be nice if folks that followed his boxing story could add a few thoughts.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:39 AM   #22
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Apparenlty Roshii Wells and Julian Letterlough lives ment nothing to you people right? I wonder if these 2 black warriors were mexicans more of you would of mentioned them.
Throughout boxing history black boxers have been outstanding.
One great tragedy is many were not given an equal opportunity
such as Sam Langford. Even the great Jack Johnson was hunted.
He won the title, but he died a tragic death in 1946. Some retired from boxing to a life of poverty and despair, some driffting through life
bruised, battered or blind.


From ring tragedies to life tragedies, the names go on and on.
Battling Siki, Tiger Flowers, Chalky Wright, Zora Folley, Eddie Machen,
Sonny Liston, Wallace (Bud) Smith, and many more such as Roshii Wells.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:53 AM   #23
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To be honest my knowledge of McClellan's out-of-ring activities is not particularly good. I've heard about his dogfighting escapades but not how seriously he was involved in them.

Out of curiosity, was he ever thrown in jail for this?
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:22 AM   #24
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To be honest my knowledge of McClellan's out-of-ring activities is not particularly good. I've heard about his dogfighting escapades but not how seriously he was involved in them.

Out of curiosity, was he ever thrown in jail for this?
Never arrested or convicted.
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:02 AM   #25
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Throughout the long history of boxing, there have been many tragedies
from the ring and beyond the ring.

Classic tragedies in the ring include the likes of Benny Kid Paret,
Davey Moore, Johnny Owen, Lavern Roach, and others.

Outside the ring, there have been numerous tragedies and sad moments
with deaths such as Al (BummY) Davis to war casualties such as
Garland (Ripper) Randall, and the many accident victims such as
Rudel Stitch, Chic Calderwood, and Zora Folley.

For some their story was a tragedy such as Georgie Small.
Following his victory over Lavern Roach in 1950, his life spun out of control
due mainly to the guilt of having beat his friend Lavern Roach who died
following the bout.

And many are now aware of the years of turmoil for Emile Griffith
following the tragic death of Benny Paret. A must watch is the
"Ring of Fire, The Emile Griffith Story".

A river of tears, teardrop by lonely teardrop, can never wash away the sorrow of the lost potential, the ruined lives, and the pain of family
and friends, but we can remember them.
Beautifully expressed, BZ. Just the right tone for a somber subject.
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:35 AM   #26
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For all you saying he had it coming, does his family deserve to suffer to. They've bankrupted themselves and work multiple jobs for G-Man.
Obviously it's worst for the family, but they weren't exactly classy either. After it happened, they were openly wishing Benn got paralyzed too, and that they just wanted his money. Pretty stupid, emotional reasoning. Blaming Benn for what happened is like blaming a gun for someone getting killed.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:01 AM   #27
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Obviously it's worst for the family, but they weren't exactly classy either. After it happened, they were openly wishing Benn got paralyzed too, and that they just wanted his money. Pretty stupid, emotional reasoning. Blaming Benn for what happened is like blaming a gun for someone getting killed.
I read that Archie Moore kept pit bulls ,don't know if he matched them.
Billy Collins story is pretty sad,especially because he was White[thats for Foreman Rules].
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:14 PM   #28
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Obviously it's worst for the family, but they weren't exactly classy either. After it happened, they were openly wishing Benn got paralyzed too, and that they just wanted his money. Pretty stupid, emotional reasoning. Blaming Benn for what happened is like blaming a gun for someone getting killed.
People in their situation have more freeway to say offensive things, though their comments were unacceptable.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:49 PM   #29
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It is a shame that some would focus on the negative aspects of a McClellan, but this thread's prime focus should be remembering past champions, contenders
and ordinary boxers professionals and amateurs.

When we are looking for that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow of hope, dreams and boxing objectives
we must from time-to-time take time to remember
some of those lost along the winding road of glory.

We should try to remember in a spirit of co-operation
and respect, and not travel along the low road of
negative attacks.

In the case of ring deaths, there are accidents
like the case of the great African - American
Davey Moore (the Springfield Rifle from Ohio)
to those that should never have happened such as
Benny (Kid) Paret, Ernie Schaaf and others of
all weights, races and religions.

For those that should never have happened,
there is a sad story with many lessons that
should have been learned. Where were the
promoters, managers, and doctors after
Paret was beated badly by Gene Fullmer
in December 1961. Where were Paret's
manager and doctor when the March 1962
match with Emile Griffith was set. Where was the referee in the Griffith - Paret tragedy, where was Paret's cornerman, and where were the fans.
Where were the safety regulations, and where is
the health benefits and pension plans.

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Old 10-06-2008, 09:59 PM   #30
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Jack Johnson driving angrily away from an establishment that refused to serve him because of his color. He crashed his car and died.
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