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Old 10-07-2008, 02:23 PM   #31
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While what McClellan did with the dogs is atrocious, I really don't see a man being beaten into brain damage, memory loss, blindness, and being for the most part deaf pretty much all for the entertainment of others as something "he had coming." Obviously he was a bad person, but the effects of that fight are things I wouldn't wish upon nearly anyone.

Apart from in the ring tragedies, a lot of boxers had tragic life stories, such as Esteban DeJesus.
I also thought that his sparring with heavyweights and the monster shots he took from Julian Jackson also took it's toll on McClellan.
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:48 PM   #32
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You need to make more comments Brian Zelly because you know what you are talking about. It seems in this country if you arent White, Hispanic, Latino, or Asian nobody cares about you. Well of course you will see the people here mention Ali or Louis because they were half white or mention Tyson because he gets in trouble with the law alot.
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You know if De La Hoya got shot it would be all over the news because he is "Amercas' Son even though he isnt american but a mexican. I didnt even know Roshii Wells got killed. I was wondering why he wasnt fighting so I typed his name on wikipedia and that is how I found out. I think Friday nights fight might of mention Julian Letterlough being killed but no tribute to him? Show a couple of his fights so people will see how much of a warrior he was.
Or perhaps because Wells is not as well known as De La Hoya and not as famous. No disrespectful, may he rest in peace, but there's no way to sugar-coat it.

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Beetheven Scottland, Randie Carver, and Leavander Johnson all died from injuries in the ring and again most people dont know who they are or care to know who they are. If Manny Pacquio died in the ring it would make front page. But that is just how this country is now. But it is good to see you know what you are talknig about Brian Zelley and I hope to see more good post from you.
See above. No disrespect to any of those guys, but someone like Pacman is far more famous than Leavander Johnson.
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:16 AM   #33
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Oh please stfu.



Or perhaps because Wells is not as well known as De La Hoya and not as famous. No disrespectful, may he rest in peace, but there's no way to sugar-coat it.



See above. No disrespect to any of those guys, but someone like Pacman is far more famous than Leavander Johnson.
For those that want to learn more about Leavander Johnson
they may wish to go to the Leavander Johnson Foundation site.
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:30 AM   #34
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Tragic story: Mike Tyson with his 'memory loss' after the first Holyfield fight. Remember that interview? 'I don't remember anything!'

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Old 10-08-2008, 05:59 AM   #35
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Two more names to add to the memorial wall of lost fighters
include Sonny Banks and Willie Classen.
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:03 AM   #36
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Wouldn't put McClellan down as a tragic. It's been incredibley tiresome reading how sad & tragic people think his story is, not to mention the whining about the ref in his last fight. Over 12 years & counting...
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:24 AM   #37
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Apparenlty Roshii Wells and Julian Letterlough lives ment nothing to you people right? I wonder if these 2 black warriors were mexicans more of you would of mentioned them.


Yes. So come back with some Mexican examples please.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:56 AM   #38
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Wouldn't put McClellan down as a tragic. It's been incredibley tiresome reading how sad & tragic people think his story is, not to mention the whining about the ref in his last fight. Over 12 years & counting...

I think if someone is permanently injured in a bout its tragic, regardless of people moaning about refs, or the amount of years gone by.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:54 AM   #39
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johnny owens story really broke my heart. he was still a virgin at the time of his death

sonny listons is another one. here is a link to an unsolved mysteries on his case:

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Old 10-08-2008, 09:11 AM   #40
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How about the death of Davey Moore. His truck slipped of the handbrake and as he tried to hold it back he got crushed.
Or remember Duane Thomas who got killed in a streetshooting
There have been many tragic story's
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:36 AM   #41
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Sonny Liston gets to me. For some reason, I hate and am moved by stories of his coming back to hometown Philadelphia after lifting the crown from Patterson and no one, no one being there to greet him as the new champ.

He will always be a champ, a man, in my heart.
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:08 PM   #42
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What about the Middleweight division? It's champions have had more than their fair share of tragedy.
Nonpareil Jack Dempsey....Died 33 of TB.
Charles Kid McCoy....Suicide.
Stanley Ketchel....Shot and killed 23.
Billy Papke....Killed wife and comitted suicide.
Les Darcy, Australian claimant....Died 21 pneumonia.
Harry Greb....Died 32 on the operating table.
Tiger Flowers, his great rival....Died 32 also on the operating table a year later.
Marcel Cerdan....Died 33 in a plane crash.
Randy Turpin....Comitted suicide aged 37.
Dick Tiger....Died cancer aged 42 only 18 months after his last fight.
Carlos Monzon.....Murdered wife and later died in a car crash aged 52.
Hugo Corro....Died of lung disease 53.
Later on we had the Watson, McClellan tragedies albeit at super-middle.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:44 AM   #43
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billy collins spring to my mind..the fight with Resto was horrific, and what was more crazy is that Collin's father started to feel Resto's gloves and knew something was not right ...how long did it take fora proper investigation of the hand casts and gloves??

Panama Lewis deserves to be locked up with a lion!!
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:45 AM   #44
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Edwin Rosario--drugs (cocaine) wrecked his career and life, i heard so many stories from former friends and famila about his coke addiction and puzzy addiction..
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:52 AM   #45
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The Michael Watson story is more one of triumph over tragedy . No-one expected him to even wake up never mind achieved what he has since he fell into a coma after a classic encounter with chris eubank.

Criminally under-rated as a fighter, its for his life after boxing that he should be an inspiration to us all in a shitty world.
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