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Old 08-13-2007, 10:14 AM   #1
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Default so when the hell is judah going to get a new trainer??

his dad sucks, "com on zab fire up, 1-2-1-2 beat that motha fockaaaa"

he needs someone who can really give him advise, he needs a buddy mcgirt or a freddy roach, he needs to learn to box all the way,

people say judah breaks down mentally in the later rounds, i dont believe this i just think he doesn't have good enough stamina, i have seen and heard about his training camps where his dad is his trainer and strength and conditioning coach AND his nutritionist, he needs a proffessional camp, a real conditioning coach, and a proper nutritionist,

he does **** all for conditioning, he works the bags, the mitts, jumps ropes and runs and does a few ground exercises, but these days this isn't enough, he needs a real conditioning coach and a nutritionist telling him what to do.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:16 AM   #2
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i think a new trainer would help him a lot. ....what happened to pernell whitaker working his corner? He was supposed to a couple years ago
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:18 AM   #3
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i dont like the idea of former champs training fighters, because they expect their fighters to do as well as they did which is not always possible.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:56 AM   #4
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Default Re: so when the hell is judah going to get a new trainer??

I agree. I think Roach would be good for him.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:09 AM   #5
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Default Re: so when the hell is judah going to get a new trainer??

I said he needed a new trainer at least 2 years ago. His dad is terrible!
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:27 AM   #6
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Default Re: so when the hell is judah going to get a new trainer??

I also think Judah's father is a negative in his corner. Hes too excited and gives way too much information. Zab doesnt even seem to listen to him. Too late though, I dont think Judah has any hunger left to be champ. He seems to only fight for money these days.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:33 AM   #7
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what about mayweather sr ? does anyone here think he could help zab , i think mayweather sr is a good trainer if you can get past his poems , and some od the stupid stuff he says
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:35 AM   #8
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I think manny steward would be better. Thats what seems to be lost from Judah. He was a good offensive fighter and a great finisher. Now he seems to be reluctant to punch in combination and use his good offensive skills.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:13 PM   #9
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Default Re: so when the hell is judah going to get a new trainer??

ZGreat thread, i was actually going to post this thread the other day when i saw the rerun on you tube.....your EXACTLY RIGHT!!


Zabs dad gave him no advice but yelling....CMON ZAB YOU GOTTA THROW PUNCHES"...."1-2-3"..."YOU GOT TO HIT THIS MUTHA FUCCA"

i remember thinking what Vague advice to give a loosing fighter....give him more stradegy than that....i completely agree
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:31 PM   #10
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He should get Floyd Sr.....
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:34 PM   #11
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Default Re: so when the hell is judah going to get a new trainer??

Mark my words:

Zab will be back.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:35 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doublesuited
Mark my words:

Zab will be back.
And he will be knocked out yet again
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:04 PM   #13
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Default Re: so when the hell is judah going to get a new trainer??

I've been saying Zab needed a new trainer since his loss to Zoo. His father can only take him so far. Paul Williams is another fighter I think that would benefit greatly from a new trainer.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:31 PM   #14
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His dad generally says the right thing but his delivery is AWFUL.

Zab has to try Goosen. A calm, collected coach who will compliment you and tell you where you need to improve.

Zab showed heart against Cotto but still the same problem. When it is early in a fight and he is fresh his speed, power, athleticism etc is at its peak. He does have skills and they all get caught with it but then he mentally just shuts down.

Part of it is his training, when he does pads there is no intelligence behind it.

His dad needs to change how he trains. All this attitude, hype etc doesn't work. Sometimes he lies to Zab for the **** of it.
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