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Old 08-11-2007, 04:26 AM   #16
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Yeah....except for when they fought...

Leonard clearly won
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You have to reach back to 1980 or '81 to find the peak Hagler. And that version of Marvin -- or even the 1985 one, for that matter -- takes the fight to Leonard and beats him by clear decision.

I agree SRL will run and lose a lopsided decision before he allows himself to get KOd.
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:36 PM   #18
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Yeah....except for when they fought...

Im pretty sure it was Hagler who couldnt land a damn thing when leonard was on the ropes and went on to cry about it for 20 years
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Well, the punchstats show SRL only landed a handfull more punches throughout the fight so Marv must have landed something against those ropes. Leonard was so tenacious that it's hard to see him getting stopped in a fight in with Hagler even in '83. Can see him getting knocked down though and losing an exciting fight on points.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:33 PM   #20
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A great natural middleweight in/near his prime should beat a great natural welterweight in/near his prime.

I pick Hagler.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:28 PM   #21
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Im pretty sure it was Hagler who couldnt land a damn thing when leonard was on the ropes and went on to cry about it for 20 years
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:29 PM   #22
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Hagler was shot by the time that fight happend. You could see he was beginning to slip in the Hearns fight.
Hagler had been on the decline since about 1983-84 or so, but look at Leonard. He hadn't fought in 3 years, just once in 5 years, and most of his career was at welter and jr. middle.
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In a normal sized ring, even the 1987 Hagler TKOs Leonard.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:55 PM   #24
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True, but Leonard never lost his athletic qualitys or speed.
Leonard's stamina wasn't the same. He got tired after a few rounds against Hagler, then had to get his 2nd wind back.

Sure he used his legs a lot, but Leonard's stamina in the late 70s and early 80s was pretty amazing. He even finished the 15th strong in Montreal after taking a murdering to the body from Duran.

Leonard was still very fast though, and it was pretty amazing how sharp he was after that sort of layoff.
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