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Old 08-15-2007, 05:50 PM   #16
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I don't know if it should commense though, there are some things that you just can't mess with and my favourite fighter seems to bring an either "love him" or "hate him" vibe, even though post-Lacy there has been some universal respect laid down.

I'm not a nuthugger, but I am a massive fan and can be biased a little, even though I seek at all costs for fairness and unbiased views because I view fanboyism to be a negative respect on any discussion, but my true thoughts on Calzaghe vs. Fitz in a head to head comparison and not a legacy comparison are going to bring some people to view me as not legitimate in other discussions.


It's possible, but at the same time I've always been a little (perhaps jokingly) fanatical about Fitz's abilities, so our biases should cancel each other out. There's (just) enough Youtube and Google Book evidence on Fitz's style that we can dissect it (and Calzaghe's) in the same way we did Louis's.

Besides, debates that we have an emotional stake in (as long as we keep the arguments themselves polite and objective) are often the most enlightening.

So...shall we set a date with destiny after the Calzaghe-Kessler bout is concluded? Perhaps something like, "Calzaghe vs. Fitzsimmons: A Great Supermiddle in Retrospect".
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:13 PM   #17
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It's possible, but at the same time I've always been a little (perhaps jokingly) fanatical about Fitz's abilities, so our biases should cancel each other out. There's (just) enough Youtube and Google Book evidence on Fitz's style that we can dissect it (and Calzaghe's) in the same way we did Louis's.

Besides, debates that we have an emotional stake in (as long as we keep the arguments themselves polite and objective) are often the most enlightening.

So...shall we set a date with destiny after the Calzaghe-Kessler bout is concluded? Perhaps something like, "Calzaghe vs. Fitzsimmons: A Great Supermiddle in Retrospect".
Sure thing, only it needs one change in the title, "Calzaghe vs. Fitzsimmons: Supernatural fighters of 168 in retrospect".
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:17 PM   #18
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Sure thing, only it needs one change in the title, "Calzaghe vs. Fitzsimmons: Supernatural fighters of 168 in retrospect".


Correct, except for one detail. Fitz was only 168 pounds for five minutes (after eating half of Detroit) before his superhuman metabolism brought him back to the perfect 167 lbs. Only one photograph of a 168 lb. Fitzsimmons has survived:








































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Old 08-15-2007, 06:21 PM   #19
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But your mistaken, of course, that is Hatton.
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Park was a pioneer of the division and was the World Champion at the weight for four years making 10 successful defences. Benn was only a titlist, although yes he had the better wins on paper.

A pioneer? The division was boxing's laughing stock until the 1990s (or specifically after Leonard and Tommy won trinkets). Journeymen (and that's being kind) like Roy Gumbs received shots at the crown usually by getting sparked and iced- often a pre-requisite for super-middles in the 1980s. Park also fought exclusively in Korea...there's bad decisions, then there's 'Korean decisions' and struggled with every half-decent fighter he ever fought.
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