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Re: Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title
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 Don't know how Sam Langford and Iron Hague could fight for the Coloured heavyweight title since Hague was white. Some did regard this as being for the vacant Empire championship, although Sam never showed interest in defending it, and Tommy Burns still had some claim to it. For an extended period of time beginning during 1912, mixed matches between races were banned in many parts of Canada and the USA. This, and the fact that Jack Johnson drew his own colour line, led to the re-establishment of the Coloured heavyweight Championship. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] |
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Re: Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title
This is what I came up with a while back:
'COLORED' & BLACK HEAVYWEIGHT TITLES 1849 Daniel Knox was described by the New York Clipper as the “Colored Champion,” and was allowed to fight only Black opponents. 1876 Charles C. Smith “The Black Thunderbolt” claims the title after offering to take on all comers. Sept. 13, 1880 Ben Smith WTKO3 Louis Leard; Pelham Station Alabama Smith; Alabama Coloured Champion challenged all Negro's to fight for his belt Jan 14, 1881 Prof. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W3 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], New York, NY Sep, 1881 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] claims title when, after stripping to fight [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] , the Heavyweight Champion refused to fight. Apr 6, 1882 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO2 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], New York, NY Dec 7, 1882 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO3 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], New York, NY Jan 10, 1883 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO2 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], New York, NY Friday 23rd February 1883 Boston, Massachusetts [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO 6 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title 2oz gloves were used Sunday 1st July 1883 New York, New York [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] PTS Date Uncertain (Black Heavyweight Championship) Saturday 10th May 1884 Boston, Massachusetts [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] D [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] TD 4 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title Police stopped the fight after Johnson was floored The fight in the Crib Club Boston, Mass. USA was billed as fight to a finish to decide the 'coloured' title; police stopped it after Godfrey was well on top. Wednesday 25th January 1888 Bloomfield, Colorado [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO 4 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title The decision of the referee was later reversed by the club's directors and Godfrey was awarded the winner's share of the purse, he had originally been disqualified. Godfrey knocked down Johnson in the fourth and the latter and his seconds claimed foul. Initially, the referee ruled the bout in Johnson’s favor, but the club eventually changed the ruling. Friday 24th August 1888 California Athletic Club, San Francisco, California Heavyweight [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] TKO 19 Billed for the 'coloured' Heavyweight title Jackson never defended the title and it lapsed for close to eight years. Cyberboxingzone - [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] won the coloured title by defeating George Godfrey in August 1888 and did not defend again officially, but he retained the Lineal Coloured championship and retained that title against quality opposition (including Jim Corbett) until he ran into a young fighter by the name of none other than James Jeffries. This happened in March 1898. Jeffries knocked him out in the third round and with that win, became the Lineal Coloured champion. In 1896, the coloured championship had been awarded to Bob Armstrong (by the chart in this thread) although a political decision (jackson was still lineal), Bob Armstrong was a sparring partner and in fact in 1898 lost a decision to, You guessed it James J Jeffries. There was one other claimant, because Armstrong actually lost his title to Frank Childs. There is one disputed newspaper report claim that has James Jeffries defeating Frank Childs early in his career. It is also noted that Childs was beaten later on by Joe Choynski who couldnt win the World Title. In any case, Childs dropped the lineal title to George Byers who then went undefeated until losing to Tommy West. Interestingly, Byers also had losses to future title challenger Jack Root. All in all, there isn’t really any argument that Jim Jeffries wasn’t the best fighter in the world when he won his world championship. In reality, he was as close to being lineal and undisputed as anyone ever has been or could be. In fact, you may be able to create an argument (if you are using the theory in the post above) that James J Jeffries was in fact the first ever undisputed champion. Nov. 11, 1896 The 'Mirror of Life' stated That Peter Jackson was Heavyweight Champion of the World. Monday 21st December 1896 Broadway A.C., New York, New York [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO 19 Billed for the vacant 'colored' Heavyweight title Saturday 6th March 1897 Broadway A.C., Brooklyn, New York [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] TKO 6 Referee: Dick Roche Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title Saturday 29th January 1898 Chicago A.A., Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO 2 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title Saturday 26th February 1898 Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] DQ 3 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title. Fight appears in Childs's record in Nelse Innes's RING RECORD, No. 6, but not reported in the Chicago Tribune. March 23, 1898 The 'Mirror of Life' stated Peter Jackson is now a physical wreck and should not be allowed to fight Thursday 2nd June 1898 Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] D [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] PTS 6 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title Wednesday 14th September 1898 Lenox AC, New York, New York [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] 165 W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] PTS 20 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title Saturday 4th March 1899 Stag A.C., Cincinnati, Ohio Heavyweight [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] TKO 6 Colored World Heavyweight Title Monday 8th May 1899 (Other sources have May 6, 1899) Howard Theater, Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] TKO 5 Haines claimed 'black' Heavyweight title. Date of May 8 reported in the Chicago Tribune. Other sources say that Klondike never claimed the Title, he was only 165 pounds. July 24,1899 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO9 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], Brooklyn, NY Friday 11th August 1899 Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] PTS 6 Childs claims Haines 'black' Heavyweight title Saturday 28th October 1899 Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO 3 Childs defends 'black' Heavyweight title Friday 16th March 1900 Star AC, Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] D [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] PTS 6 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title Childs defends 'black' Heavyweight title Saturday 15th December 1900 Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO 6 Childs defends 'black' Heavyweight title Saturday 16th March 1901 Hot Springs, Arkansas [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] KO 17 Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title Monday 24th February 1902 American A.C., Chicago, Illinois [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] W [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] PTS 6 Martin wins world 'colored' heavyweight title |
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Re: Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title
Friday 25th July 1902
London, England (Crystal Palace, Sydenham) Denver Ed Martin W Bob Armstrong PTS 15 Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title "Martin proved the cleverer and never gave his opponent a chance, being declared an easy winner on points at the close of the fifteenth round; Martin, it is announced, will challenge the winner of the Jeffries-Fitzsimmons fight in San Francsico." (Associated Press) Referee was Tom Scott and Martin weighed 186, Armstrong 196 Saturday 16th August 1902 Newcastle, England Denver Ed Martin W Frank Craig TKO 3 Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Saturday 30th August 1902 Newcastle, England Denver Ed Martin W Frank Craig KO 4 Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Tuesday 21st October 1902 Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California Heavyweight Jack Johnson W Frank Childs TKO 12 Childs loses his claim as world 'colored' heavyweight champion; Childs's seconds claimed he dislocated his elbow Wednesday 10th December 1902 Penn Art Club, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Heavyweight Denver Ed Martin NC Bob Armstrong ND 6 Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title "The bout was fast from the start and both men narrowly escaped a knockout. The bell saved Armstrong in the third and fifth and Martin was floored six times in the fourth round." (Daily Gazette and Bulletin) Some sources report this bout held 12/11/02. Thursday 5th February 1903 Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California Jack Johnson W Denver Ed Martin PTS 20 Johnson wins world 'colored' heavyweight title Thursday 26th February 1903 Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California Jack Johnson W Sam McVea PTS 20 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Monday 11th May 1903 Washington S.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Jack Johnson W Joe Butler KO 3 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Tuesday 27th October 1903 Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California Jack Johnson W Sam McVea PTS 20 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Monday 15th February 1904 Lenox A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Jack Johnson W Black Bill NWS 6 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Newspaper decision as reported in the Philadelphia Item. Friday 22nd April 1904 San Francisco, California Jack Johnson W Sam McVea KO 20 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Thursday 2nd June 1904 Chicago, Illinois Jack Johnson W Frank Childs PTS 6 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Tuesday 18th October 1904 Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California Jack Johnson W Denver Ed Martin KO 2 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Tuesday 2nd May 1905 Knickerbocker A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Jack Johnson W Black Bill KO 4 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Claude Brooks used the name "Black Bill" Tuesday 9th May 1905 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Jack Johnson W Walter Johnson KO 3 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Jack Johnson NC Joe Jeannette ND 3 Record indicates Johnson fought Jeannette and Johnson on the same day. Saturday 25th November 1905 National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Jack Johnson L Joe Jeannette DQ 2 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title. Although losing Johnson still claimed the title because he was disqualified Friday 1st December 1905 Eureka A.C., Baltimore, Maryland Jack Johnson NC Young Peter Jackson ND 12 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title "At its conclusion no decision was given. Johnson had undertaken to knock Jackson out within twelve rounds or take the smaller end of the receipts. He failed to do so." (Durango Democrat) Saturday 2nd December 1905 National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Jack Johnson NC Joe Jeannette ND (W)6 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Tuesday 16th January 1906 Sharkey A.C., New York, New York Jack Johnson W Joe Jeannette NWS 3 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title. (Boston Globe) Wednesday 14th March 1906 Baltimore, Maryland Jack Johnson W Joe Jeannette PTS 15 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Thursday 26th April 1906 Lincoln A.C., Chelsea, Massachusetts Jack Johnson 185 W Sam Langford 156 PTS 15 Referee: Martin Flaherty Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title - Langford knocked down twice. |
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Re: Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title
Thursday 20th September 1906
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Jack Johnson NC Joe Jeannette ND 6 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Monday 26th November 1906 Portland, Maine Jack Johnson D Joe Jeannette PTS 10 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title Tuesday 19th February 1907 Gaiety Athletic Hall, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Jack Johnson W Peter Felix KO 10 Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title 1908 Jack Johnson wins world heavyweight title in December. Feb 20,1909 Sam McVea W20 Joe Jeannette, Paris, FR Apr 9, 1909 Sam McVea KO2 Cyclone Billy ******, Paris, FR Apr 17, 1909 Joe Jeannette KO49 Sam McVea, Paris, FR ---Sam Langford claims title after Johnson refuses to face him for the world title. Tuesday 13th July 1909 Bijou Theater, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Sam Langford W John (Klondike) Haines NWS 6 Langford claims World 'colored' Heavyweight title after Jack Johnson refuses to meet him. Langford reported to have had the better of fight by Pittsburgh Post. Tuesday 28th September 1909 Armory, Boston, Massachusetts Sam Langford W Dixie Kid TKO 5 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 2nd November 1909 Armory, Boston, Massachusetts Sam Langford W John (Klondike) Haines KO 2 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Dec 11,1909 Joe Jeanette D30 Sam McVey, Paris, FR Monday 10th January 1910 Memphis, Tennessee Sam Langford W Dixie Kid KO 3 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Saturday 14th May 1910 National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Sam Langford W Battling Jim Johnson NWS 6 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Langford "had things practically all his own way." (Washington Post) Tuesday 6th September 1910 Armory A.C., Boston, Massachusetts Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 15 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Thursday 10th November 1910 Joplin, Missouri Heavyweight Sam Langford W Jeff Clark KO 2 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim "Sam Langford won over Jeff Clark of Joplin in the second round of what was to have been a ten-round bout here tonight. The fight was stopped when Clark was all but out. Before he would fight Langford insisted that the ring be reduced to sixteen feet square. From the tap of the gong Langford rushed, showering short jabs to the body. The force of his onslaught rendered Clark powerless and he was knocked to the floor for the count of eight three times in the first round. He came back gamely, but after two minutes of the second round, after he had gone down twice, the referee stopped the fight, giving Langford the decision." (Indianapolis Star) Tuesday 6th December 1910 Armory, Boston, Massachusetts Sam Langford W Morris Harris KO 2 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 10th January 1911 Armory A.A., Boston, Massachusetts Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 12 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim "Langford had a decisive lead in every round but one and in the first round dropped Jeannette for a count of eight." (Elbert County Banner) Saturday 1st April 1911 Paris, France Sam Langford D Sam McVea PTS 20 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 5th September 1911 Madison Square Garden, New York, New York Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette NWS 10 Langford won the newspaper decision according to the New York Times. Jeanette was knocked down in the 1st, 4th, and 10th rounds. Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 26th December 1911 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Sam McVea W Sam Langford PTS20 Langford loses world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 8th April 1912 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Sam Langford W Sam McVea PTS 20 Australian Heavyweight Title Langford regains world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Saturday 3rd August 1912 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Sam Langford W Sam McVea PTS 20 Australian Heavyweight Title ~ Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wednesday 9th October 1912 Perth, Australia Sam Langford W Sam McVea TKO 11 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim McVey claimed a foul. This was not allowed and he refused to continue. Thursday 26th December 1912 Sydney Stadium, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Sam Langford W Sam McVea KO 13 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 24th March 1913 Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Sam Langford D Sam McVea PTS 20 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 9th September 1913 Atlantic Gardens A.C., New York, New York Heavyweight Sam Langford 185 W John Lester Johnson 170 KO 11 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim. At the gong, Johnson began prancing and stamping around the ring like a horse with the blind staggers. Langford was compelled to take long-distance swings and the only place he could reach was his opponents left kidney, which he did until Johnson went down. Friday 3rd October 1913 Madison Square Garden, New York, New York Sam Langford 199Ľ D Joe Jeannette NWS10 Referee: Billy Joh Newspaper decision was a draw according to the New York Times. It was felt that Langford was badly out of shape. Atlanta Constitution reported Jeannette winning Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Saturday 20th December 1913 Luna Park, Paris, France Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 20 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 23 March 1914 National S.C., New York, New York Sam Langford W Bill Watkins TKO-1 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim. Friday 27th March 1914 Empire A.C., New York, New York Sam Langford 200 W Battling Jim Johnson 226 NWS 10 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Langford "won by a wide margin" when Johnson "failed to show anything remotely resembling championship ability" (New York Times) Wednesday 15th April 1914 Chattanooga, Tennessee Sam Langford W George Kid Cotton PTS 8 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 1st May 1914 New Orleans, Louisiana Sam Langford D Harry Wills NWS10 Newspaper decision was a draw Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Thursday 26th November 1914 Vernon, California Heavyweight Sam Langford W Harry Wills KO14 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim "With a left swing to the jaw, Sam Langford of Boston knocked out Harry Wills, the giant New Orleans negro, in the fourteenth round of a scheduled twenty-round fight this afternoon at Vernon. Both men were knocked down repeatedly, Langford himself taking the count four times in the first two rounds. Langford early in the fight hurt his left ankle as he fell to the mat in a vicious breakaway. Wills' effective straight-arm drives gave him an apparent even break in most of the rounds, but Langford fought with a superior knowledge of the game that gradually wore out Wills. As the soreness left Langford's injured ankle, his footwork improved and the twelfth, thirteenth and fourteenth rounds showed Langford winning. His speed, judgment and force then enabled him to play with Wills. The final swing was delivered after a torrent of blows had left Wills staggering." (Indianapolis Star) Tuesday 6th April 1915 35th Street A.C., New York, New York Sam Langford 195 D Battling Jim Johnson 224 NWS 10 Newspaper decision was a draw according to the New York Times Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 13th April 1915 Boston, Massachusetts Heavyweight Joe Jeannette W Sam Langford PTS 12 Langford loses world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 27th April 1915 Boston, Massachusetts Joe Jeannette D Sam McVea PTS 12 Jeannette defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 29th June 1915 Atlas A.A., Boston, Massachusetts Sam McVea W Sam Langford PTS 12 McVey wins a version of World 'colored' Heavyweight title Tuesday 7th September 1915 Boston, Massachusetts Harry Wills W Sam McVea PTS 12 McVey loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 3rd December 1915 Harlem S.C., New York, New York Harry Wills 205 W Sam Langford 195 NWS 10 Wills easily won the newspaper decision, per the New York Times Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 3rd January 1916 New Orleans, Louisiana Heavyweight Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS 20 Referee: Tommy Burns Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 11th February 1916 New Orleans, Louisiana Heavyweight Sam Langford W Harry Wills KO 19 Wills loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim "Sam Langford knocked out Harry Wills in the 19th round of a scheduled twenty-round go at a local arena last night. Until the knockout blow neither fighter seemed to have the advantage." (Reno Evening Gazette) Last edited by hhascup; 04-10-2012 at 09:47 PM. |
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Re: Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title
Thursday 17th February 1916
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York Heavyweight Sam Langford 193 D Sam McVea 212 NWS 10 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim. New York Times Saturday 26th February 1916 Montreal, Quebec Joe Jeannette W Silas Green KO 6 Jeannette defends his world 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 28th February 1916 Long Acre A.A., New York, New York Sam Langford W Cleve Hawkins NWS 10 Langford easily won the newspaper decision, per the New York Times. Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 7th March 1916 Broadway S.C., Brooklyn, New York Harry Wills W Sam Langford NWS 10 Wills easily won the newspaper decision, per the New York Times. Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wednesday 22nd March 1916 Syracuse, New York Sam Langford W Dave Mills TKO 2 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 31st March 1916 St. Louis, Missouri Heavyweight Sam Langford 190 W Jeff Clark 175 TKO 5 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim "Sam Langford drove his right hand against Jeff Clark's jaw in the fifth round of their scheduled 10 round bout here last night. Clarke's second carried him away." (Sandusky Star Journal) Friday 7th April 1916 Syracuse, New York Heavyweight Sam McVea D Sam Langford NWS 10 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Newspaper draw. (Sandusky Star Journal) Tuesday 25th April 1916 St. Louis, Missouri Heavyweight Harry Wills W Sam Langford NWS 8 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wills won the newspaper decision. (Nevada State Journal) Tuesday 2nd May 1916 East Market St. Rink, Akron, Ohio Sam Langford NC Sam McVea ND 12 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 12th May 1916 Arena, Syracuse, New York Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette KO 7 Langford wins undisputed world 'colored' heavyweight title Saturday 12th August 1916 Teatro Roma, Avellaneda, Buenos Aires Heavyweight Sam Langford D Sam McVea PTS 20 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Controversial Decision Thursday 30th November 1916 Syracuse, New York Heavyweight Sam Langford 198 D Bill Tate 226 NWS 10 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim. The Syracuse Herald gave it to Langford, but the Syracuse Post-Standard gave it to Tate. Either way it was a very close fight. Tuesday 12th December 1916 St. Louis, Missouri Sam Langford W Battling Jim Johnson KO 12 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 1st January 1917 Kansas City, Missouri Sam Langford W Battling Jim Johnson PTS12 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Thursday 25th January 1917 Kansas City, Missouri Heavyweight Bill Tate W Sam Langford PTS 12 Langford loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 1st May 1917 St. Louis, Missouri Heavyweight Sam Langford W Bill Tate KO 5 Langford regains his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 11th May 1917 Cambria A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Heavyweight Sam Langford D Harry Wills NWS 6 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim (Chicago Tribune) Friday 14th September 1917 Toledo, Ohio Heavyweight Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette NWS 12 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim (Chicago Tribune) Thursday 20th September 1917 Brooklyn, New York Heavyweight Sam Langford L Harry Wills NWS 10 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wills won the newspaper decision. (****** Evening Mirror) Monday 12th November 1917 Coliseum, Toledo, Ohio Heavyweight Sam Langford L Harry Wills NWS 12 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wills won the newspaper decision. (Decatur Review) Monday 17th December 1917 Stockyards Stadium, Denver, Colorado Heavyweight Sam Langford W Kid Norfolk KO2 Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Norfolk down 3 times in 2d Sunday 14th April 1918 Panama City Heavyweight Harry Wills W Sam Langford KO 6 Langford loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Sunday 19th May 1918 Panama City Heavyweight Harry Wills W Sam Langford TKO 7 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 19th August 1918 Atlantic City, New Jersey Harry Wills W Jeff Clark TKO 5 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Saturday 14th September 1918 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Harry Wills NC Jack Thompson ND 6 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 10th June 1919 Jersey City, New Jersey Heavyweight Harry Wills W John Lester Johnson NWS 8 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wills won the newspaper decision. (Bridgeport Standard Telegram) Friday 4th July 1919 St. Louis, Missouri Heavyweight Harry Wills W Sam Langford W NWS 8 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wills won the newspaper decision. (Decatur Review) Monday 18th August 1919 Arena, Syracuse, New York Heavyweight Harry Wills W Jeff Clark TKO 4 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 30th September 1919 Arena, Syracuse, New York Heavyweight Harry Wills NC Sam Langford ND 10 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim The Syracuse Herald reported that it was a very disappointing fight and that it wasn't important 'whether Wills won or Langford won or it was a draw.' It did report that Langford's eye was closed and his mouth cut at the end, while Wills only suffered a damaged reputation. Monday 20th October 1919 Fourth Regiment Armory, Jersey City, New Jersey Heavyweight Harry Wills W Joe Jeannette NWS 8 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wills won the newspaper decision. (Newark Advocate) Wednesday 5th November 1919 Tulsa, Oklahoma Heavyweight Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS15 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Thursday 1st January 1920 Coliseum, San Francisco, California Heavyweight Harry Wills NC Jack Thompson NC 3 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim After their loudly booed perfrormance, both fighters purses were withheld by the promoters Monday 12th January 1920 Tulsa, Oklahoma Harry Wills W Jack Thompson PTS 15 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Wednesday 17th March 1920 St. Paul, Minnesota Harry Wills W Andrew Johnson KO 1 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim This bout lasted 42 seconds. Wills hit Johnson once and Johnson hit the floor twice. Johnson went down, got up, went down--and then stayed down.Vancouver Daily World Friday 23rd April 1920 Stockyard Stadium, Denver, Colorado Heavyweight Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS 15 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim "The once mighty Sam Langford was led to an awful slaughter by Harry Wills of New Orleans at Denver Friday night. Altho the Tarbaby was not disgraced, gamely surviving four knockdowns in the first round, and by superb ring generalship lasting the fifteen-round limit. The two blacks were fighting on even terms on the finish, but the referee's decision easily went to Wills." (Evening State Journal) Also incorrectly reported as occurring April 19. Wills is generally regarded by all as the leading black heavyweight in the world. He holds the “title” of colored champion until his loss at the hands of Jack Sharkey in October of 1926. Wednesday 8th September 1920 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Harry Wills NC Sam McVea NC 6 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim The referee stopped the bout, claiming the two were stalling. Both boxers then were barred from boxing again in Philadelphia. |
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Re: Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title
Monday 17th January 1921
Broadway Auditorium, Buffalo, New York Heavyweight Harry Wills 210 W Bill Tate 230 KO2 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 11th February 1921 Baltimore, Maryland Heavyweight Harry Wills W Jeff Clark KO 2 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 27th May 1921 Broadway Arena, Brooklyn, New York Heavyweight Harry Wills 211 W Andrew Johnson 212½ KO 10 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Saturday 2nd July 1921 Queensboro Stadium, Long Island City, New York Heavyweight Harry Wills 214 W Bill Tate 243 TKO 6 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 18th November 1921 Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon Heavyweight Harry Wills W Denver Ed Martin KO1 Time: 2:05 ~ Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim. Martin was down six times Wednesday 30th November 1921 Denver, Colorado Harry Wills NC Jack Thompson NC 5 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim. The referee stopped the fight without rendering a decision after Thompson fell to the floor claiming a foul had been committed. Wednesday 7th December 1921 Denver, Colorado Heavyweight Harry Wills W Bill Tate PTS 12 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 2nd January 1922 Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon Promoter: George Moore Heavyweight Harry Wills L Bill Tate DQ 1 Referee: Tom Louttit Wills was disqualified for knocking Tate down after the referee's call to break; Both fighters agreed to a rematch four days later, at no cost to the fans. Tate claims the Black Heavyweight Title. Friday 6th January 1922 Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon Promoter: George Moore Heavyweight Harry Wills D Bill Tate PTS 10 Both fighters claimed the Black Heavyweight title in this bout. Wills bled from a cut over his right eye from the 5th round on. Wills was knocked down for no count in the 9th from a rabbit punch. (Both fought without pay because of that Monday night fiasco four days previous.) Tuesday 17th January 1922 Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS 10 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Thursday 29th June 1922 Trenton, New Jersey Harry Wills 211 W Jeff Clark 193 KO 2 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 17th July 1922 Winnipeg, Manitoba Harry Wills W Jeff Clark KO 3 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 21st August 1922 Broad A.C., Newark, New Jersey Harry Wills 215 W Buddy Jackson 194 KO 2 Time: 2:14 Referee: Harry McCoy Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Tuesday 29th August 1922 Ebbets Field, Brooklyn, New York Heavyweight Harry Wills W Tut Jackson KO 3 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Friday 29th September 1922 Madison Square Garden, New York, New York Harry Wills 213¾ W Clem Johnson 204 TKO12 Time: 1:55 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Monday 5th November 1923 Newark, New Jersey Heavyweight Harry Wills W Jack Thompson TKO 4 Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim Nov 8, 1926 George Godfrey KO6 Larry Gains, Buffalo, NY Nov 22, 1926 George Godfrey D10 Bearcat Wright, Portland, OR Jul 5, 1927 George Godfrey KO7 Neil Clisby, Los Angeles, CA Nov 20, 1927 George Godfrey KO1 Clem Johnson, Atlantic City, NJ Aug 15, 1928 Larry Gains WF3 George Godfrey, Toronto, Can -Billed as a championship affair---Gaines never made any real claim to the title. He left to campaign in Europe and Godfrey remained recognized as the colored champion. Dec 19, 1930 George Godfrey D10 Bearcat Wright, Atlantic City, NJ -Billed as for the American Black Title Aug 24, 1931 George Godfrey KO2 Seal Harris, Toronto, Can Sep 5,1932 George Godfrey KO5 Roy (Ace) Clark, Laredo, TX Jan 31, 1933 George Godfrey W10 Tiger Jack Fox, Indianapolis, IN Mar 10, 1933 George Godfrey NC6 Bearcat Wright, Kansas City, MO Oct 9, 1933 Obie Walker W10 George Godfrey, Philadelphia, PA Jul 20, 1935 Larry Gains W15 Obie Walker, Leicester, Eng |
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So, Jack Johnson was the Lineal coloured champion when he lost to Willard, but this couldnt have been a title match for obvious reasons. So, did Jack end up losing the lineal coloured championship?
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1908 Jack Johnson wins world heavyweight title in December. Feb 20,1909 Sam McVea W20 Joe Jeannette, Paris, FR Apr 9, 1909 Sam McVea KO2 Cyclone Billy ******, Paris, FR Apr 17, 1909 Joe Jeannette KO49 Sam McVea, Paris, FR ---Sam Langford claims title after Johnson refuses to face him for the world title. Tuesday 13th July 1909 Bijou Theater, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Sam Langford W John (Klondike) Haines NWS 6 Langford claims World 'colored' Heavyweight title after Jack Johnson refuses to meet him. Langford reported to have had the better of fight by Pittsburgh Post. Tuesday 6th September 1910 Armory A.C., Boston, Massachusetts Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 15 Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim |
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By chance is there a picture of the colored title belt? I read it was leather with diamonds. |
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Sam Langford may have "claimed" it, but you cannot "claim" a lineal title. This means that Johnson retained the lineal title (in the same way that George Foreman retained the lineal World title) when he refused to fight no1 contenders or when Spinks maintained the lineal title until he lost to Tyson, or Ali, until he lost to Frazier. When Johnson lost to Willard, he did not lose a fight for 11 years. That is an amazing record, when you think about it. His next loss was to Fighting Bob Lawson. I guess the question here is does 'fighting' Bob Lawson qualify for the coloured heavyweight championship. And if he does, doe this mean that he holds the lineal title until he meets George Godfrey, or Is bob lawsons record different to what is on boxrec. |
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Johnson wouldn't give any of the top "BLACK" fighters a title shot, so Langford and other top "Black" fighters claimed the title. When Langford, who challenged Johnson many times, beat all the rest of the top "Black" fighters, he was recognized as the rightful title holder. You could say that Johnson was the "Lineal" Champion BUT he never claimed to be the Champion during that time. |
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