Bernard Dunne on Setanta - Page 4

selhurst · 08-26-2007, 04:12 PM

This was the first time I've seen Bernard Dunne fight so I can't really make a comment on the 90 seconds or so he was in the ring. His opponent Martinez reminded me of Levi Kirakosyan and showed how dangerous European level fighters can be. It was clear that Dunne didn't know what to do when he was hurt and should have been hanging on instead of backpeddling with his hands down.

Loved the fact Martinez's entourage had a £10,000 bet on him to win in the 1st round at 66-1!!

FrankinDallas · 08-26-2007, 04:20 PM

the fight is on youtube. Dunne did not know what hit him. It was like Marciano-Walcott II. Martinez is rock hard and looks very strong; obviously hits hard.

Dunky McCafferty · 08-26-2007, 05:23 PM

Dunne is not done.

He will be back better than ever. I truly believe that. I know a lot of people are saying hes chinny after being KO'd in such dramatic fashion but Im still not convinced. He was in against a heavy puncher & was caught cold, similar to Ray Bautista a few weeks back, & Matthew Hall, a few weeks before that. 3 young unbeaten prospects with bright futures, all beaten in the 1st round.

The 3 of these guys may be in fact chinny, but all Im saying is its difficult to tell when they are hurt in the first few minutes of a fight.
For intance, look at Juan Manuel Marquez. In the first round of his fight with big punching Pacquiao. Now we all know Marquez has a solid chin, but against Pac he was caught cold in the 1st round, was decked heavily THREE times & came within a bawhair(ball hair to non scots readers

) of being stopped. Then in the second round JMM gets his shit together, & gave Pac a boxing lesson & took all Pacs powershots no problem, & in many peoples opinion won the fight!

Now if the ref had stopped that fight in the first round, everyone would have been screaming that Marquez was chinny. You catch my drift?

China_hand_Joe · 08-26-2007, 09:12 PM

Good to see you are still alive Dunky,

Dunky McCafferty · 08-26-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

Good to see you are still alive Dunky,

thanks Rupert, its nice to know guys like your good self think I may be dead when Im not hanging around this joint!

China_hand_Joe · 08-26-2007, 09:56 PM

Who do you want to see win big brother this year, if you had to pick one of those English?

Dunky McCafferty · 08-26-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

Who do you want to see win big brother this year, if you had to pick one of those English?

Thats why I like you, cos you are mental(in a good way)

Anyway, you asked the question, so I am honour bound to answer. To be honest, I would like to see Jonty win. I know hes a gimp, but I fuckin hate the way the group of those godawful twins, Ziggy, Liam & Brian clubbed together to evict all late entrants, including the scotsman. Sly fuckers, the lot of 'em. & I think BB have been rigging the votes to suit their own agenda.

Man, this is a subject I could post about for ages, so I have to try & cut it short, as this aint the thread for a good BB discussion...

Im sick of starting BB threads on the lounge anyway, cos no-one else will as they think it will affect their ESB 'street cred' so if someone has the balls to do one for once, I will get stuck right in on every BB subject from Caroles moaning to Ziggys weird mouth, but i wont hold my big scottish breath...

(btw, that wasnt a hint for you to start one CHJ incase thats what you were thinking

)

China_hand_Joe · 08-26-2007, 11:27 PM

I can't back the underdog Jonty, although I have nothing against him personally he is an underdog. Liam though, the perfect game player, although he won't win, he played the game as well as he could have.

It is interesting the twins were favorite to win this week, BB may be something worth betting on, if you could suss it all out.

I am a proud viewer of Big Brother. Proud. I fail to see the problem people have with observing animal group dynamics.

achillesthegreat · 08-27-2007, 07:53 AM

I've seen it now. Dunne was caught cold by a puncher who could finish. Dunne not got a china chin, it took numerous shots and kds to finish him.

He has to come out with a much better sweat than that. Plus he has to tighten up his defence. I mean literally keep his arms tighter.

Dunne can easily come back from this. His opponent may go on to be the next Katsidis, you just don't know yet. Still an unknown quantity. This is why fighting guys with padded records doesn't always work out well.

Max Molyneux · 08-27-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

Dunne is not done.

He will be back better than ever. I truly believe that. I know a lot of people are saying hes chinny after being KO'd in such dramatic fashion but Im still not convinced. He was in against a heavy puncher & was caught cold, similar to Ray Bautista a few weeks back, & Matthew Hall, a few weeks before that. 3 young unbeaten prospects with bright futures, all beaten in the 1st round.

The 3 of these guys may be in fact chinny, but all Im saying is its difficult to tell when they are hurt in the first few minutes of a fight.
For intance, look at Juan Manuel Marquez. In the first round of his fight with big punching Pacquiao. Now we all know Marquez has a solid chin, but against Pac he was caught cold in the 1st round, was decked heavily THREE times & came within a bawhair(ball hair to non scots readers

) of being stopped. Then in the second round JMM gets his shit together, & gave Pac a boxing lesson & took all Pacs powershots no problem, & in many peoples opinion won the fight!

Now if the ref had stopped that fight in the first round, everyone would have been screaming that Marquez was chinny. You catch my drift?

Marquez was pimping Pac after the knockdowns though anyway.

doggyland · 08-27-2007, 04:29 PM

Gutted for Dunne.

There are still avenues for him

Dunky McCafferty · 08-27-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Molyneux

Marquez was pimping Pac after the knockdowns though anyway.

Exactly what I am getting at Max. The 1st round of a fight? Its not what people should judge a fighter on. & thats whats happening with Dunne, many have judged him as a chinless bum cos he lost a fight in the first round.

Defeats happen. shocks happen, especially in the 1st round when a fighter gets caught cold. Its boxing. Too many young punters obsessed with the 0 nowadays.

Shev · 08-28-2007, 08:44 AM

Overconfidence cost Dunne that fight because he's so hype in the south, I don't believe Dunne can compete beyond european level.

GazOC · 08-28-2007, 08:47 AM

The fights repeated 11pm tonight on Setanta.

08-26-2007, 04:12 PM	#46
selhurst newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 47 vCash: 1000	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta This was the first time I've seen Bernard Dunne fight so I can't really make a comment on the 90 seconds or so he was in the ring. His opponent Martinez reminded me of Levi Kirakosyan and showed how dangerous European level fighters can be. It was clear that Dunne didn't know what to do when he was hurt and should have been hanging on instead of backpeddling with his hands down. Loved the fact Martinez's entourage had a £10,000 bet on him to win in the 1st round at 66-1!!
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08-26-2007, 04:20 PM	#47
FrankinDallas Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Born in the Bronx, sentenced to Texas Posts: 8,738 vCash: 1000	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta the fight is on youtube. Dunne did not know what hit him. It was like Marciano-Walcott II. Martinez is rock hard and looks very strong; obviously hits hard.
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08-26-2007, 05:23 PM	#48
Dunky McCafferty KEYBOARD HARDCASE East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,854 vCash: 1000	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta Dunne is not done. He will be back better than ever. I truly believe that. I know a lot of people are saying hes chinny after being KO'd in such dramatic fashion but Im still not convinced. He was in against a heavy puncher & was caught cold, similar to Ray Bautista a few weeks back, & Matthew Hall, a few weeks before that. 3 young unbeaten prospects with bright futures, all beaten in the 1st round. The 3 of these guys may be in fact chinny, but all Im saying is its difficult to tell when they are hurt in the first few minutes of a fight. For intance, look at Juan Manuel Marquez. In the first round of his fight with big punching Pacquiao. Now we all know Marquez has a solid chin, but against Pac he was caught cold in the 1st round, was decked heavily THREE times & came within a bawhair(ball hair to non scots readers ) of being stopped. Then in the second round JMM gets his shit together, & gave Pac a boxing lesson & took all Pacs powershots no problem, & in many peoples opinion won the fight! Now if the ref had stopped that fight in the first round, everyone would have been screaming that Marquez was chinny. You catch my drift?
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08-26-2007, 09:12 PM	#49
China_hand_Joe Nostradamus East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,690 vCash: 563	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta Good to see you are still alive Dunky,
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08-26-2007, 09:56 PM	#51
China_hand_Joe Nostradamus East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,690 vCash: 563	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta Who do you want to see win big brother this year, if you had to pick one of those English?
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08-26-2007, 11:27 PM	#53
China_hand_Joe Nostradamus East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,690 vCash: 563	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta I can't back the underdog Jonty, although I have nothing against him personally he is an underdog. Liam though, the perfect game player, although he won't win, he played the game as well as he could have. It is interesting the twins were favorite to win this week, BB may be something worth betting on, if you could suss it all out. I am a proud viewer of Big Brother. Proud. I fail to see the problem people have with observing animal group dynamics.
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08-27-2007, 07:53 AM	#54
achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,203 vCash: 1000	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta I've seen it now. Dunne was caught cold by a puncher who could finish. Dunne not got a china chin, it took numerous shots and kds to finish him. He has to come out with a much better sweat than that. Plus he has to tighten up his defence. I mean literally keep his arms tighter. Dunne can easily come back from this. His opponent may go on to be the next Katsidis, you just don't know yet. Still an unknown quantity. This is why fighting guys with padded records doesn't always work out well.
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08-27-2007, 04:29 PM	#56
doggyland Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 6,382 vCash: 1000	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta Gutted for Dunne. There are still avenues for him
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08-28-2007, 08:44 AM	#58
Shev Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 431 vCash: 1000	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta Overconfidence cost Dunne that fight because he's so hype in the south, I don't believe Dunne can compete beyond european level.
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08-28-2007, 08:47 AM	#59
GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Spion Kop Posts: 44,504 vCash: 1000	Re: Bernard Dunne on Setanta The fights repeated 11pm tonight on Setanta.
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